Generational Dynamics World View News
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John,
I understand Generational Dynamics and have read The Fourth Turning.
I have made several important life decisions based off your work and even so I am surprised to see things falling apart even when I understand why they should.
Maybe this is knowledge that we were not meant to learn as a species or are unable to do anything with except be spectators.
I don't know which is worse.
I understand Generational Dynamics and have read The Fourth Turning.
I have made several important life decisions based off your work and even so I am surprised to see things falling apart even when I understand why they should.
Maybe this is knowledge that we were not meant to learn as a species or are unable to do anything with except be spectators.
I don't know which is worse.
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This is a joke but it's fun watching you guys whip yourselves into a frenzy about secession. Have you lived in Texas? Austin, the capitol is a deep blue liberal swamp, though not (quite) a disaster like so many California cities or Seattle. The Black population in Houston is enormous, along with Chinese, not to mention Viet Namese along the coast. There's also a huge East Indian contingent of high tech workers in the big cities. Finally the Mexican population is set to EXCEED whites in a mere couple years (2022). NONE of those groups want anything to do with secession and combined overwhelm bloviating white politicians and their supporters. They want free stuff from the free-spending Federal Govt. And in the end ALL the other states have to ratify which means it will never ever ever happen.Higgenbotham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:49 amI don't have any inside contacts, but I believe Texas has been preparing for secession for some time.
Texas just opened the nation's first state-run gold depository. Here's what that means.
Texas lawmakers signed off on building the country's first state-backed gold depository in 2015 after the project was reworked to ensure a private firm would absorb all the costs. Gov. Greg Abbott said at the time that the project would allow Texas to “repatriate” gold from New York.The reason I reposted this from April - the point is that they're looking, they're watching. This is a big topic in the town halls - who is coming into Texas from other states and that they're not going to allow Texas to go blue.Higgenbotham wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:02 pmI've been listening to Governor Abbott's town halls. He was talking about the influx from California and was worried about Texas turning blue. In a subsequent town hall he was asked about this and Governor Abbott said we took a look at who is coming in from California and they are not Democrats.
What is way more likely is that in the event of WWIII and a severely weakened or distracted US, Mexico as part of their long-held Aztlan plan will annex parts of Texas to protect their people from "racism" or whatever happens due to conflicts between old whites and Mexicans or even between Blacks and Mexicans. Those conflicts won't be held in check by police forces, as each group will assert their power over certain parts of the state.
One of the things John never talks about but should when analyzing the SouthWest US, is that Mexicans deep in their soul still believe belongs to Mexico. Go to the Alamo and look at the monuments and you will see massive volumes of spit on them from Mexicans passing by. In the mind of Mexicans, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Southern California belong to Mexico, full stop. It is their historical birthright for thousands of years; we stole it from them a mere 150 years ago, and eventually they will get it back. That's the essence of the Aztlan plan.
John never factors the Aztlan plan into any predictions about where we're headed, though nothing in North America and the Southern border is more important from a Generational perspective. He talks about Israel refighting the 1948 partition but never talks about the US refighting the Mexican American war. Instead he assumes that once Mexicans cross the Rio Grande, all of a sudden they love apple pie and baseball and will rally behind Kamala Harris when WWIII breaks out. Though it's possible since they might calculate they'll get moar-free-stuff from the US than from a new Mexican administration.
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I'm not trying to predict the future of secession; my post was about what is happening in Texas that points to the people who are currently in charge having thought about secession for many years and apparently making preparations for secession. In other words, it doesn't appear to me that Allen West's comments came out of the clear blue sky.Burner Prime wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:28 pmThis is a joke but it's fun watching you guys whip yourselves into a frenzy about secession.
As far as the futures goes, that gets really tricky, particularly in Texas, as your post points out. And I'll state my usual disclaimer: I believe at this time in history everyone should develop their own view of the future based on their unique experiences, rather than just pick someone else's view. And so you have yours. My view is that the overwhelming driver of the future will be depopulation and it will happen really, really quickly and catch everyone off guard. The most likely vector of that on a worldwide basis will be pandemics, which I talked about well before covid hit, and I believe covid will be just the beginning and relatively mild in comparison to what is coming. In addition to that, in Texas, a big problem is likely to be starvation. The soil in Texas is crap and I don't think the natural habitat of Texas can support more than about 1/10 of its population without importing food from outside the borders of Texas, so if trade within a few hundred miles is very limited for a period of time, Texas is in deep trouble in that regard. Only a tiny fraction of the food in Texas grocery stores comes from Texas. Out of that mess, I think Texas will actually be one of the few places that can cobble together a government that has jurisdiction over a territory that approximately resembles the size of a US state. As you state, the borders of Texas will be redrawn, but I believe they will give some of that territory back to Mexico or to whichever Mexican strongmen or gangs that want it.

While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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I think its crazy to live in a part of the country where freshwater isn't easily available.Higgenbotham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:20 pmThe most likely vector of that on a worldwide basis will be pandemics, which I talked about well before covid hit, and I believe covid will be just the beginning and relatively mild in comparison to what is coming. In addition to that, in Texas, a big problem is likely to be starvation. The soil in Texas is crap and I don't think the natural habitat of Texas can support more than about 1/10 of its population without importing food from outside the borders of Texas, so if trade within a few hundred miles is very limited for a period of time, Texas is in deep trouble in that regard. Only a tiny fraction of the food in Texas grocery stores comes from Texas. Out of that mess, I think Texas will actually be one of the few places that can cobble together a government that has jurisdiction over a territory that approximately resembles the size of a US state. As you state, the borders of Texas will be redrawn, but I believe they will give some of that territory back to Mexico or to whichever Mexican strongmen or gangs that want it.Burner Prime wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:28 pmThis is a joke but it's fun watching you guys whip yourselves into a frenzy about secession.
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I also would not want to live somewhere I will become a minority in the near future.
Human nature is what it is.
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For context, here are the following states that are net exporters:Higgenbotham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:20 pmIn addition to that, in Texas, a big problem is likely to be starvation. The soil in Texas is crap and I don't think the natural habitat of Texas can support more than about 1/10 of its population without importing food from outside the borders of Texas, so if trade within a few hundred miles is very limited for a period of time, Texas is in deep trouble in that regard. Only a tiny fraction of the food in Texas grocery stores comes from Texas.
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Alaska
Arizona
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Dakota
Oregon
South Dakota
Texas
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming
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I worked in infrastructure engineering (water) in the State of Texas. Water is a complicated subject. With regard to systems and operability, if there is an elevated storage tank nearby, it only takes about an hour per day to pump the tank full, so even sporadic electricity service would keep water systems functional around the clock. I think for the most part water systems in the State of Texas won't be the last thing to go but, like I said, everyone needs to use their own best judgement on these things based on their unique knowledge and experiences. Since I think pandemics will figure prominently in the coming collapse, I think a good model to go by is what happened during the covid pandemic. But I can surely understand why others might disagree with that. For some reason, and I'm not sure exactly why, elevated storage tanks aren't normally used in the Houston area, but in East Texas, you could probably dig a well by hand in many areas and hit clean water at 20 or 30 feet. Most areas around Houston have a nice clay barrier that will filter the water and I believe the rule of thumb is that a clay barrier of about 10 feet will do a good job of purifying water in most cases. Example water table here: https://pubs.usgs.gov/wri/wri96-4018/pd ... _plate.pdf I would actually be more concerned personally about water and water systems in some areas of states like Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois where government finances and oversight have been going downhill for decades and the plants and distribution systems are old and decrepit - full of lead pipes and pipes with gaping holes in them. We know the stories about Milwaukee (cryptosporidium) and Flint (lead).Guest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:14 pm
I think its crazy to live in a part of the country where freshwater isn't easily available.
I also would not want to live somewhere I will become a minority in the near future.
Human nature is what it is.
By posting that map, I'm trying to show that the State of Texas has a wide distribution of Hispanic population. If you're white, you won't be a minority in any of the blue areas with regard to Hispanics for a long time to come, if ever. But in the yellow, orange, and red areas, you already would be right now. Those chunks that are the red areas are already unsafe. Some of my former coworkers had to travel and stay overnight in those areas and part of the reports from the field visits included recommendations on safe areas to stay in overnight and which areas to avoid. Also, I heard a story about a doctor in a hospital in one of the red counties who was shot and killed by a family as an act of revenge because he treated a patient who died through no fault of the doctor.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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At the present time, Texas is one of the few states that has a positive balance of trade and it probably has the largest per capita positive balance of trade of any state in the US. Provided cross border trade is possible, Texas would be able to buy all the food it needs from outside its borders with the revenue it gets from the rest of its powerhouse economy.DaKardii wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 12:14 amFor context, here are the following states that are net exporters:Higgenbotham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:20 pmIn addition to that, in Texas, a big problem is likely to be starvation. The soil in Texas is crap and I don't think the natural habitat of Texas can support more than about 1/10 of its population without importing food from outside the borders of Texas, so if trade within a few hundred miles is very limited for a period of time, Texas is in deep trouble in that regard. Only a tiny fraction of the food in Texas grocery stores comes from Texas.
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Alaska
Arizona
Iowa
Kansas
Louisiana
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Dakota
Oregon
South Dakota
Texas
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming
The problem lies in the event that is not possible. Texas in no way is a net exporter of food and is in no way self-sufficient in food.
https://lib.dr.iastate.edu/cgi/viewcont ... ortspapers
The first column of the table on page 5 shows the gross state product for agriculture in millions of dollars. That can be recalculated on a per capita basis. The states with the highest per capita agriculture production are: South Dakota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, and Idaho, I believe in that order. I could be wrong, but that's what comes to my mind off the top of my head. But I believe those numbers will give a very good assessment of where US states stand in relative per capita production of agricultural product value.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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** 12-Dec-2020 World View: Wisdom, Madness and Folly
work.
As I'm sure you're aware, you're asking some very deep philosophical
life and death questions that have different answers for everyone.
The problem is that knowing what's coming is not a blessing. It's a
curse. I know that it's been a curse to my life, and undoubtedly to
many others. As King Solomon said in Ecclesiastes, the more you know
the more miserable you'll be. I agree.
1:12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.
1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning
all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God
given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and,
behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
1:15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is
wanting cannot be numbered.
1:16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great
estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been
before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom
and knowledge.
1:17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and
folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth
knowledge increaseth sorrow.
I'm curious to know what life decisions you've made on the basis of myGuest wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:30 pm> John, I understand Generational Dynamics and have read The Fourth
> Turning.
> I have made several important life decisions based off your work
> and even so I am surprised to see things falling apart even when I
> understand why they should.
> Maybe this is knowledge that we were not meant to learn as a
> species or are unable to do anything with except be spectators.
> I don't know which is worse.
work.
As I'm sure you're aware, you're asking some very deep philosophical
life and death questions that have different answers for everyone.
The problem is that knowing what's coming is not a blessing. It's a
curse. I know that it's been a curse to my life, and undoubtedly to
many others. As King Solomon said in Ecclesiastes, the more you know
the more miserable you'll be. I agree.
1:12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.
1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning
all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God
given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and,
behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
1:15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is
wanting cannot be numbered.
1:16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great
estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been
before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom
and knowledge.
1:17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and
folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth
knowledge increaseth sorrow.
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** 12-Dec-2020 World View: The Nation of Aztlán
same amount of attention as the Palestinians.
The problem is that I have written about all these things -- back in
2005-2006, when hundreds of thousands of Latinos were marching in Los
Angeles carrying Mexican flags and singing a bizarre Spanish version
of the Star Spangled Banner:
** Violence increases throughout Mexico as illegals pour across U.S. border
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e050825
** Mass Latino demonstrations protest proposed immigration bill
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e060328
** Immigration: Xenophobia and paranoia growing rapidly as 'Great American Boycott&' approaches
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e060430
Separately, in those days, I was having online conversations with
people about Aztecs, Mayans, and Commancheros.
But that was 15 years ago. Today, it's all fizzled. Whereas
Palestinian protests in Gaza or the West Bank are still a regular
occurrence, there's no news coming out of Los Angeles any more except
for the homeless lining the streets and, more recently, the endless
lockdowns.
And if you do an internet search for Aztlán, you get nothing recent.
Even the aztlan.net web site, which I used to reference, is now all
but defunct, except for a map:

Furthermore, the Aztlán secession wouldn't make sense today. Today,
caravans of Latinos are trying to get into the United States to take
advantage of all the free benefits promised by Biden, including free
welfare and free medical care for illegal immigrants. Nobody wants a
nation of Aztlán to secede, since Biden wouldn't be president in
Aztlán, and so the people wouldn't get free benefits. Actually, that
was also true in 2005-6.
So the solution to your dilemma is simple: Just get a few thousand
Mexicans to march through Los Angeles again, and you'll get a lot more
attention again.
Awwwww, I'm sorry you feel left out because Latinos aren't getting theBurner Prime wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:28 pm> One of the things John never talks about but should when analyzing
> the SouthWest US, is that Mexicans deep in their soul still
> believe belongs to Mexico. Go to the Alamo and look at the
> monuments and you will see massive volumes of spit on them from
> Mexicans passing by. In the mind of Mexicans, Texas, Arizona, New
> Mexico and Southern California belong to Mexico, full stop. It is
> their historical birthright for thousands of years; we stole it
> from them a mere 150 years ago, and eventually they will get it
> back. That's the essence of the Aztlan plan.
> John never factors the Aztlan plan into any predictions about
> where we're headed, though nothing in North America and the
> Southern border is more important from a Generational
> perspective. He talks about Israel refighting the 1948 partition
> but never talks about the US refighting the Mexican American
> war. Instead he assumes that once Mexicans cross the Rio Grande,
> all of a sudden they love apple pie and baseball and will rally
> behind Kamala Harris when WWIII breaks out. Though it's possible
> since they might calculate they'll get moar-free-stuff from the US
> than from a new Mexican administration.
same amount of attention as the Palestinians.
The problem is that I have written about all these things -- back in
2005-2006, when hundreds of thousands of Latinos were marching in Los
Angeles carrying Mexican flags and singing a bizarre Spanish version
of the Star Spangled Banner:
** Violence increases throughout Mexico as illegals pour across U.S. border
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e050825
** Mass Latino demonstrations protest proposed immigration bill
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e060328
** Immigration: Xenophobia and paranoia growing rapidly as 'Great American Boycott&' approaches
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e060430
Separately, in those days, I was having online conversations with
people about Aztecs, Mayans, and Commancheros.
But that was 15 years ago. Today, it's all fizzled. Whereas
Palestinian protests in Gaza or the West Bank are still a regular
occurrence, there's no news coming out of Los Angeles any more except
for the homeless lining the streets and, more recently, the endless
lockdowns.
And if you do an internet search for Aztlán, you get nothing recent.
Even the aztlan.net web site, which I used to reference, is now all
but defunct, except for a map:

- Map of Aztlán
Furthermore, the Aztlán secession wouldn't make sense today. Today,
caravans of Latinos are trying to get into the United States to take
advantage of all the free benefits promised by Biden, including free
welfare and free medical care for illegal immigrants. Nobody wants a
nation of Aztlán to secede, since Biden wouldn't be president in
Aztlán, and so the people wouldn't get free benefits. Actually, that
was also true in 2005-6.
So the solution to your dilemma is simple: Just get a few thousand
Mexicans to march through Los Angeles again, and you'll get a lot more
attention again.
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You would think this would be obvious, but in today's insane liberal culture, common sense is racist. And then, when the danger people are in becomes apparent to even the most liberal, it's too late (Unless, of course, you are Tom Hanks. Then you jet away and leave your fans to die horrific deaths.)I think its crazy to live in a part of the country where freshwater isn't easily available.
I also would not want to live somewhere I will become a minority in the near future.
Human nature is what it is.
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