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spottybrowncow
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Guest wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:13 am
This current run-up in civilization was fueled by many unique happenstances that cannot be repeated, such as oil oozing from the ground and huge chunks of copper just lying about. In short, all the low-hanging fruit has been picked, and when this civilization collapses, it will be to a low no more advanced than the 1700's, and will have a difficult time climbing from there.

I don't think it will play out like that, as much as I like "Mad Max." Nuclear energy alone is sustainable for many thousands of years https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... onsumption.
Other technologies will emerge. Things will likely be very different, but we're never going back to the 1700's.

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DaKardii wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 7:09 pm
Bitcoin plunged by 30% today following Tesla’s announcement that it would no longer accept bitcoins as a form of payment for vehicle purchases. Tesla CEO Elon Musk stated that this decision is in response to claims that bitcoin “mining” is environmentally unfriendly due to the amount of electricity used in its complex computations.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/19/bitcoin ... near-.html
He is co-opted by the subsidization and carbon credit link with the Biden et al Administration.

The BTC is a manipulated drop.

HODL will always come out on top.

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spottybrowncow wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 8:02 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:13 am
This current run-up in civilization was fueled by many unique happenstances that cannot be repeated, such as oil oozing from the ground and huge chunks of copper just lying about. In short, all the low-hanging fruit has been picked, and when this civilization collapses, it will be to a low no more advanced than the 1700's, and will have a difficult time climbing from there.

I don't think it will play out like that, as much as I like "Mad Max." Nuclear energy alone is sustainable for many thousands of years https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... onsumption.
Other technologies will emerge. Things will likely be very different, but we're never going back to the 1700's.
I love the guys on this forum by and large, but they really get some crazy doomzy ideas. Of course, spotty, you are correct.

It is much more likely to go to a regionalized or balkanized world of freedom and local communities (and corresponding leftist cesspools) than civilization "collapsing". If the world is in any way similar, it'll be a slave technocrat world, which I really hope doesn't happen. For that reason, a breakup of the USA would be far preferred, since our Constitution and european/christian backbone to the society has been gone for some time now.

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DaKardii wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 3:00 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 1:06 pm
SEN. CRUZ: Now, worryingly, there have been suggestions out of Moscow and out of Berlin that the Biden administration would reduce pressure and reduce efforts to stop Nord Stream 2. Can you commit to this committee today that the Biden administration will hold the line, will keep the sanctions, and will prevent the Nord Stream 2 pipeline from being completed?

MR. BLINKEN: Two things, if I may, Senator. First of all, the president-elect strongly agrees with you that Nord Stream 2 is a bad idea and he has been very clear about that. I need to look at the actual legislation. I am determined to do whatever we can to prevent that completion, the last hundred yards, I very much agree.
The American media spent years ranting about Trump being a Russian double agent, yet Trump did all he could to derail the Nord Stream 2 project; but once Biden weaseled his way into office, he lifted the sanctions and allowed Russia this massive victory.

So much for Trump being the Manchurian Candidate.
Trump was wrong to impose those sanctions, and Biden was right to lift them.

If Germany wants to trade with Russia, let them.
Aren't you the guy that felt Trump betrayed you? Clueless Americans like you have wrecked the country. Enjoy Zimbabwe.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 9:26 pm
He is co-opted by the subsidization and carbon credit link with the Biden et al Administration.

The BTC is a manipulated drop.

HODL will always come out on top.
What about Dogecoin? He seems to be a big fan of that cryptocurrency.

Perhaps his true motivation is to hurt Dogecoin's rivals.

DaKardii
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Guest wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:20 pm
Aren't you the guy that felt Trump betrayed you? Clueless Americans like you have wrecked the country. Enjoy Zimbabwe.
Yes I am. And why shouldn't I?

He failed to deliver on many of his promises, and he came up with dumb excuses for it.

Example A: Obamacare. Why didn't he continue fighting for its repeal past August 2017? Yes, the initial efforts to repeal failed because the Freedom Caucus opposed the replacement plan, and then McCain voted down a simple repeal. That's not an excuse to NOT continue pushing for it, and then not mention it at all come election time.

Example B: The debt. He repeatedly signed spending bills filled to the brim with pork garbage, despite repeatedly promising not to. "This will be the last time," he kept saying. And the final time he did it, he decided to REALLY insult our intelligence by claiming that Congress would grant his requests to "rescind" parts of the bill per the Impoundment Control Act. Yeah. Right. At the end of the day, Trump threw fiscal responsibility out the window. And considering that the issue of fiscal responsibility was one of the MAIN issues that attracted me to the GOP, how could I be okay with that?

Example C: Bad appointments. There were a lot of them. "But don't you dare call them out for stealth undermining the agenda Trump pushed in 2016, or else you're a Democrat who hates America!" And whenever Trump fired any of them, he did it far too late and almost always for reasons that were benign compared to the actual worst things they did.

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DaKardii wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:37 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:20 pm
Aren't you the guy that felt Trump betrayed you? Clueless Americans like you have wrecked the country. Enjoy Zimbabwe.
Yes I am. And why shouldn't I?

He failed to deliver on many of his promises, and he came up with dumb excuses for it.

Example A: Obamacare. Why didn't he continue fighting for its repeal past August 2017? Yes, the initial efforts to repeal failed because the Freedom Caucus opposed the replacement plan, and then McCain voted down a simple repeal. That's not an excuse to NOT continue pushing for it, and then not mention it at all come election time.

Example B: The debt. He repeatedly signed spending bills filled to the brim with pork garbage, despite repeatedly promising not to. "This will be the last time," he kept saying. And the final time he did it, he decided to REALLY insult our intelligence by claiming that Congress would grant his requests to "rescind" parts of the bill per the Impoundment Control Act. Yeah. Right. At the end of the day, Trump threw fiscal responsibility out the window. And considering that the issue of fiscal responsibility was one of the MAIN issues that attracted me to the GOP, how could I be okay with that?

Example C: Bad appointments. There were a lot of them. "But don't you dare call them out for stealth undermining the agenda Trump pushed in 2016, or else you're a Democrat who hates America!" And whenever Trump fired any of them, he did it far too late and almost always for reasons that were benign compared to the actual worst things they did.
And then there were things like these:

https://nypost.com/2020/01/23/matt-gaet ... wers-vote/
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/trump-say ... irus-bill/

Talk about flipping off your own base.

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** 19-May-2021 World View: Hamas claims ceasefire with Israel by Friday

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  • Rockets launched from Gaza on Wednesday


There are reports that Hamas is saying that there will be a ceasefire
between Hamas and Israel by Friday. This would be the result of
intense mediation efforts by Egypt.

Apparently there are two versions of the intended ceasefire.

In one version, the ceasefire applies only to the rocket/missile
exchanges between Gaza and Israel, but does not apply to the clashes
in the West Bank between Jews and Arabs.

In the other version, the ceasefire applies to all fighting, but Hamas
requies that Israel must end all incursions into the Al-Aqsa Mosque in
Jerusalem, and must not evict Palestinians from their homes.

On Wednesday, Joe Biden spoke to Israel's prime minister Benjamin
Netanyahu and demanded that be on the "path to a ceasefire today."

Nonetheless, it's far from clear that Netanyahu will go along with
either version of the ceasefire or, if the ceasefire occurs, that it
will last more than a few days.

I note particularly note that the Israeli court hearing to evict the
threatened evictions of Palestinians from their homes, based on a
pre-1948 document, is to occur in June.


------ Sources:

-- Senior Hamas official: Ceasefire can be reached within ‘one or two
days’
https://www.timesofisrael.com/senior-ha ... -two-days/
(Times Of Israel, 19-May-2021)

-- Middle East -- Hamas official predicts ceasefire soon but Israel-Gaza
fight goes on
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 021-05-19/
(Reuters, 19-May-2021)

----- Related articles:

** 16-May-21 World View -- Will there be a third Palestinian Intifada?
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e210516



** 14-May-21 World View -- Communal violence within Israel threatens much wider war
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e210514



** 11-May-21 World View -- Violence escalates between Israelis and Palestinians in Jerusalem and Gaza
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e210511

JCP

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spottybrowncow wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 8:02 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:13 am
This current run-up in civilization was fueled by many unique happenstances that cannot be repeated, such as oil oozing from the ground and huge chunks of copper just lying about. In short, all the low-hanging fruit has been picked, and when this civilization collapses, it will be to a low no more advanced than the 1700's, and will have a difficult time climbing from there.

I don't think it will play out like that, as much as I like "Mad Max." Nuclear energy alone is sustainable for many thousands of years https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... onsumption.
Other technologies will emerge. Things will likely be very different, but we're never going back to the 1700's.
Most of the world is a rolling blackout. Electricity is not guaranteed in most of the world now; why would it be after a collapse? I have lived in countries for months at a time that lacked electricity 90% of the time. The First World is becoming Third World now. Japan and South Korea might have electricity, but most of Africa and Central America won't.

The world will be like it was in 1900; if we are lucky. Really lucky.

spottybrowncow
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JCP wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 5:37 am
spottybrowncow wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 8:02 pm
Guest wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 10:13 am
This current run-up in civilization was fueled by many unique happenstances that cannot be repeated, such as oil oozing from the ground and huge chunks of copper just lying about. In short, all the low-hanging fruit has been picked, and when this civilization collapses, it will be to a low no more advanced than the 1700's, and will have a difficult time climbing from there.

I don't think it will play out like that, as much as I like "Mad Max." Nuclear energy alone is sustainable for many thousands of years https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... onsumption.
Other technologies will emerge. Things will likely be very different, but we're never going back to the 1700's.
Most of the world is a rolling blackout. Electricity is not guaranteed in most of the world now; why would it be after a collapse? I have lived in countries for months at a time that lacked electricity 90% of the time. The First World is becoming Third World now. Japan and South Korea might have electricity, but most of Africa and Central America won't.

The world will be like it was in 1900; if we are lucky. Really lucky.

No matter how bad it becomes for many / most, there will be "pockets" of relatively plentiful energy and technology, and technology will even continue to advance, although not nearly as quickly as it has for the last hundred years. That is why humanity as a whole is not going "back" to another time - although I expect the first world to shrink quite a bit.

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