Speaking for myself, my view of China's strategy has changed
dramatically in the last two weeks, and I'm still in a state
of semi-shock. Don't forget to check out the Nuclear War thread.
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Speaking for myself, my view of China's strategy has changed
I wouldn't discount this as a possibility, and I know your knowledge of the people and history is quite good. They are so strange I wouldn't discard anything as possible.John wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:52 pm** 03-Aug-2021 World View: China's plans
My understanding is that they think that their DNA is unique andCool Breeze wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:19 pm> Is your understanding that they desire a type of world domination?
> Where they are the rulers of all, or what quality?
> I find it curious that they might believe they are physically
> (clearly not) or even genetically, in any way, more advanced than
> Europeans.
should dominate the world. My understanding is that their plan
is to conquer the United States, use a bioweapon to kill all the
people left behind, and then colonize the US land.
You may read the last paragraph and you may think I'm joking. I'm not
joking. That's what they actually believe. It's total insanity, but
that's why it's so scary -- because if they try it, it will be a
catastrophe for China and for the whole world.
I won't beg anyone's pardon for bringing this up.He threatened her, I thought, stunned. He says himself that he approached her — a woman alone in a wooded area. He tried to lure away her dog. How was this the first time I was reading these details? Had I just missed them in the other stories I’d read?
May 2020 testimony provided by Jerome Lockett, a black man who said Christian had “aggressively” threatened him in the park. Among the details: “when I saw that video, I thought, I cannot imagine if he approached her the same way how she may have genuinely been afraid for her life.” He continued, “If I wasn’t who I was, I would of [sic] called the police on that guy too.”
Lockett also says: “My two fellow dog owners have had similar situations with this man, but don’t feel comfortable coming forward because they’re white. They think they’ll be seen as some ‘Karen’ or whatever.” His complete statement can be found on page nine here.
The dispatch from Amy Cooper’s 911 call, which seems to corroborate her explanation that her double reference to Christian’s race to the operator — and the growing hysteria she displayed in the video — was the result of a bad cell phone connection.
This doesn't surprise me. The black bird watcher, who has been in several physical altercations with dog owners, will go unpunished.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:12 pmThe true story of what happened between the white dog owner and the black bird watcher in Central Park last year. The notoriously agressive and threatening black guy becomes a minor celebrity, gets paid to pen a comic book, and makes money. The white woman's life is completely ruined.
And why is this allowed to go on? You tell me...
The link:I won't beg anyone's pardon for bringing this up.He threatened her, I thought, stunned. He says himself that he approached her — a woman alone in a wooded area. He tried to lure away her dog. How was this the first time I was reading these details? Had I just missed them in the other stories I’d read?
May 2020 testimony provided by Jerome Lockett, a black man who said Christian had “aggressively” threatened him in the park. Among the details: “when I saw that video, I thought, I cannot imagine if he approached her the same way how she may have genuinely been afraid for her life.” He continued, “If I wasn’t who I was, I would of [sic] called the police on that guy too.”
Lockett also says: “My two fellow dog owners have had similar situations with this man, but don’t feel comfortable coming forward because they’re white. They think they’ll be seen as some ‘Karen’ or whatever.” His complete statement can be found on page nine here.
The dispatch from Amy Cooper’s 911 call, which seems to corroborate her explanation that her double reference to Christian’s race to the operator — and the growing hysteria she displayed in the video — was the result of a bad cell phone connection.
This is what so many don't pay attention to. Observe as the Navy is starting to put anti ship missiles on just about everything that flies or floats; the Marines and Army are both adding land based anti-ship missiles; the Air Force and Navy are adding air-launched LRASM. China's neighbors are going the same route; the Philippines is negotiating with India to buy Brahmos supersonic anti-ship missiles; Vietnam is building a variant of Russia's Kh-35UE; Malaysia has air-launched Kh-31; Indonesia is buying Ukrainian RK-360MC; Taiwan has developed it's own anti-ship missiles launched from air, land and sea. And let's not forget all the submarines China's neighbors operate with more coming yearly. Warships have some protection against these but transports are sitting ducks and sink easily. No admiral is going to send ships full of troops into areas where they're likely to be sunk. This isn't WWII and troops these days are extremely expensive to produce.Bob Butler wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:18 pmInvading a power overseas involves securing a supply lane, which implies total control of the intervening seas. This might be vaguely possible with Taiwan and Japan. The seas involved are not that huge. Australia? America? They would have to build a blue water navy to overmatch the US. They would be far better off choosing an opponent that can be confronted with their large land army. Hong Kong, India and Russia come to mind.
The significant thing was that they cancelled their latest two aircraft carriers. Well they might. They cannot launch planes from carriers without cutting down weight, without losing out on their fuel and armaments capacity. Thus, they gave up on building a blue water navy. They just don’t have the technological capability at this time. They cannot build good carrier aircraft.
The question for me is whether they can protect an invasion fleet, say heading for Taiwan, from submarines. Vaguely possible they might try that one. No doubt who has the superior army, but can they get there in good supply?
There is a saying about war. Amateurs study tactics. The professionals study logistics.
The US is a superpower because it has the largest economy in the world which frees up a lot of resources for other stuff.Bob Butler wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:41 pmIn the Industrial Age powers like Spain, France, Germany, Britain and ourselves each had their turn under various conditions to be dominant. Most are so no longer, but have become more ordinary countries, not shaking the world anymore, but existing quite nicely with cultures of their own. I could see us becoming more ordinary, one country among many, more resource rich than most, but no longer trying to be dominant world wide.
Actually, we've been spending very heavily on our people and not so heavily on the military. 3.5% of GDP is easily met; spending was over 4% from 2004-2013; excepting 1995-2003, spending was over 4% back to the 1930s; above 5%for most of that period and above 6% for a significant percentage of it. The big increases in US government spending has nothing to do with the military and everything to do with entitlement costs.In recent times we have spent heavily on our military and lightly on our people. I could see this ending. I don’t see us being destroyed, but not being a superpower either.
Some states are starting to pick up their spending, especially in East/SE Asia. Eastern Europe seems to be spending to meet the threat. Its more the traditional NATO countries who are getting fat and lazy. Germany seems to not care that in short order Poland will have a more effective military that it does. Canada is a perpetual freeloader who should just contract out their defense to the US and stop pretending they want to have a military.The question is if a policy of containment would continue. There are powers who still think it practical to expand by force. We have been at the center of dissuading them. If we take less of the burden of containment on ourselves, will others take up the slack?
In reading through the discussions, I would first like to address the idea of the WuHu flu (Covid) as part of the overall Chinese plan for world domination.
Really solidly laid out post, Navi. Well done.Navigator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:57 pmIn reading through the discussions, I would first like to address the idea of the WuHu flu (Covid) as part of the overall Chinese plan for world domination.
I have no doubt that CCP leadership is similar to the Third Reich Nazi leadership in that they:
1. Feel that they are ethnically superior to the rest of the world (CCP => Chinese are "master race" - the middle kingdom)
2. Feel that China has been purposely denied its "rightful place" in world affairs
3. Have a step by step plan to obtain their objectives -
A. China has its "rightful place" in the world (world domination)
B. "Lebensraum" (room to grow) for the master race
I also have no doubt that the CCP has/is pursuing every conceivable tactic, weapon system, methodology, ideology to achieve its objectives.
So, I do believe the Chinese have been looking into bio weapons and possibly how to create a superbug that will kill only non-Chinese.
I certainly believe that bio weapon research was taking place in the Wuhan Virology Institute, and that this is the origin of the WuHu flu. BUT, I believe that the release was accident, caused by incompetence (poor oversight, poor protocols, poor adherence to protocols, overall sloppiness).
If you decide to go the bioweapon route, here is what a competent strategy would entail:
1. Develop a highly lethal virus
2. Develop an antidote to the virus
3. Inoculate those that you don't want to kill with the antidote (this could be done using the annual "flu shot" program in your country as cover).
4. Release the virus in multiple enemy locations
5. Act shocked when everyone starts dying
The CCP were certainly trying to do step 1, this is where the virus came from. It is clear now that the WuHu flu is not natural, but has had DNA sequence modification in a bio lab.
The reasons I believe the WuHu flu was accidentally released are the following:
1. It is not "highly lethal". It is much more effective than normal flu, but it is not the black plague. It takes out 1/1000, mostly elderly or those with pre-existing conditions that would probably preclude military service. This is not what I would want from a bioweapon.
2. The Chinese certainly did not have an antidote. Since the didn't have an antidote, they are just as vulnerable to the WuHu flu. This is NOT what you want from your bio weapon. In fact the Sino they are currently peddling has little to no effectiveness. Hundreds of thousands of their own people (probably millions) have died from this, and it has certainly had a detrimental effect on their own economy.
3. It was released in China, not in the USA or Taiwan or Japan. Even the Chinese could not cover this part up and this is where the Wuhan Wet Market lie came from (a pretty silly lie, as it is less than 1km from the real source, the Wuhan Virology Institute).
That the "western world" overreacted the way that they did was just a pleasant surprise for the CCP. This is similar to the "new coke" effect.
Most people think that in the 1990s, Coca-Cola was a super smart and had a nefarious plot to reassert market dominance of their product. I personally spoke at length with a number of people who were at Coca-Cola at the time. New Coke was indeed the plan. They had no idea there would be any backlash. New Coke was a disaster for them until there was an unplanned, unanticipated, and initially unwanted revolt. They were unbelievably relieved that the whole thing worked out the way that it did, and that they were able to revert to close to the original formula and come out of the situation FAR better off than they would have. New Coke is an example of making a big mistake (due to questionable leadership competence) and then having things work out even better than you dreamed.
That the "western world" has shot itself in the foot over the WuHu flu is similar in that the Chinese may feel that they have done damage to their enemies from an unplanned reaction to Chinese biolab incompetence.
This seems about right, but let's start by pointing out what happenedNavigator wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 1:57 pm> The reasons I believe the WuHu flu was accidentally released are
> the following:
> 1. It is not "highly lethal". It is much more effective than
> normal flu, but it is not the black plague. It takes out 1/1000,
> mostly elderly or those with pre-existing conditions that would
> probably preclude military service. This is not what I would want
> from a bioweapon.
> 2. The Chinese certainly did not have an antidote. Since the
> didn't have an antidote, they are just as vulnerable to the WuHu
> flu. This is NOT what you want from your bio weapon. In fact the
> Sino they are currently peddling has little to no
> effectiveness. Hundreds of thousands of their own people (probably
> millions) have died from this, and it has certainly had a
> detrimental effect on their own economy.
> 3. It was released in China, not in the USA or Taiwan or
> Japan. Even the Chinese could not cover this part up and this is
> where the Wuhan Wet Market lie came from (a pretty silly lie, as
> it is less than 1km from the real source, the Wuhan Virology
> Institute).
The crucial point here is the date: prior to September 12, 2019. The> "Based on the material collected and analyzed by the
> Committee Minority Staff, the preponderance of evidence suggests
> SARS-CoV-2 was accidentally released from a Wuhan Institute of
> Virology laboratory sometime prior to September 12, 2019."
> https://gop-foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp ... REPORT.pdf
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