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[Trevor]

I do have a question about whether this speech is the genuine article, given how much nonsense circulates around the internet. Admittedly, it's not much of a stretch, given what the CCPs done since taking power, but I do wonder.

[Guest]

With all of the BLM parasites, illegal migrants, and criminals roaming free in the US, nuclear war doesn't scare anymore. It doesn't. I'd rather be dead than end up like the white South Africans. I won't hold my breath for decency and common sense to suddenly return with WW3.

[John]

** 08-Aug-2021 World View: Was Chi Haotian's speech genuine?

> I do have a question about whether this speech is the genuine
> article, given how much nonsense circulates around the
> internet. Admittedly, it's not much of a stretch, given what the
> CCPs done since taking power, but I do wonder.

I've been spending all my time researching exactly this issue. There
are actually two separate questions -- was the speech itself genuine,
and was the description of China's strategy as described in the speech
accurate.

As far as the speech itself, it was published in the Epoch Times in
2005, so there has been plenty of time for Chinese officials to
disavow the speech. Chi Haotian himself is still alive, 88 years old
when he appeared at the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party
of China on September 18, 2017. So Chi has had years to disavow the
speech, but has never done so. The speech has been floating around
the internet since then, and has appeared in other places. For
example, two days ago Christoph Becker in this very forum thread
provided a link to his blog in 2015 that referenced the speech. So
there is absolutely no question that the document is real.

So there's no doubt about the authenticity of the speech. Ironically,
the reason question is whether the speech is Chinese disinformation,
designed to deceive and deflect from China's real intentions. I guess
that's possible, but it's hard to see what it deflects from, since
what it contains is so awful.

So the next question is: Can we validate the contents of the speech
from other sources?

First, is China planning a nuclear attack on the US? That's been
pretty obvious for years, as China has produced one nuclear weapons
system after another that could only be used to attack the US.

The Federation of American Scientists discovered that China has
recently built hundreds of missile silos. This suggests that the
massive nuclear attack to conquer America "in one blow" is getting
very close.

-- China Is Building A Second Nuclear Missile Silo Field
https://fas.org/blogs/security/2021/07/ ... ilo-field/
(FederationAmericanScientists/FAS, 26-Jul-2021)

So that pretty much proves that China is planning a large nuclear
attack on the US.

Second, has China been developing biological weapons? Yes, especially
since the end of WW II. Here's a paper I found from 2002 that goes
into extensive detail about China's chemical and biological weapons
programs. It's from the Chemical and Biological Weapons
Nonproliferation Program, Center for Nonproliferation Studies,
Monterey Institute of International Studies.

-- China’s Role in the Chemical and Biological Disarmament Regimes --
Eric Croddy
https://www.nonproliferation.org/wp-con ... 91crod.pdf
(NonProliferation.org, March 2002:

It was interesting to me to read that China accused the US of hiring
Japanese bio weapons experts from WW II and used chemical weapons
during the Korean War against the North Koreans and even on Chinese
territory. These claims were debunked, but China kept using them,
probably for domestic purposes to justify their own bio weapons
research.

So it's clear that as of 2002, China was actively developing bio
weapons. So the claims about bio weapons made by Chi Haotian in his
2003 speech are quite credible.

Third, is China still developing bioweapons today? Well, nobody would
seriously suggest that China would stop developing any sort of weapons
technology, so of course China is still developing bioweapons today.

But now we have absolute proof with the Wuhan Virus Event. It's now
pretty universally agreed (outside of China) that the Wuhan virus was
developed in the Wuhan lab, and released into the public. I believe
that the release was intentional, but many people believe it was
accidental. It doesn't really matter which is true, since the outcome
is what's important -- that China intentionally spread the virus to
180 countries, while protecting China.

Jeff Nyquist in his blog traced the development of Covid-19 back to an
NCoV discovered by Saudi doctors in 2012, which the Chinese stole from
the Saudis.

-- General Chi’s Nasty Wuhan Soup: A Recipe for BioWar?
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/01/30/gener ... or-biowar/
(JRNYquist, 30-Jan-2020)

Fourth, what about the overall strategy -- a massive nuclear attack on
the United States, following by the use of bioweapons to "clean up
America" for colonization by the Chinese?

We can't prove that the CCP is currently planning this strategy,
except by the circumstantial evidence that all the pieces are in place
for this, and China seems to be preparing for it.

Nyquist does an extensive analysis of this, pointing out that China
has developed a large and growing fleet of amphibious transport ships,
each capable of transporting 1,000 troops.

-- What President Trump Must Do to Stop China’s Invasion
https://jrnyquist.blog/2020/04/17/what- ... -invasion/
(JRNYquist, 17-Apr-2020)

So my personal conclusion, based on a great deal of the evidence from
a large and growing body of research that I've collected, is that the
speech attributed to Chi Haotian is valid, and that its contents are
fully validated.

[Navigator]

** 08-Aug-2021 World View: Was Chi Haotian's speech genuine?


So my personal conclusion, based on a great deal of the evidence from
a large and growing body of research that I've collected, is that the
speech attributed to Chi Haotian is valid, and that its contents are
fully validated.

I am still skeptical. I have asked some well connected sources to look into it.

Reasons for my skepticism:
1 - This appears to have a SOLE source, J.R. Nyquist. I can't find any sources other than those ultimately quoting him in the Epoch Times.
2 - Epoch Times was founded/is run by Falun Gong refugees. They of course hate the CCP (with good reason) and want to bring it down. They overstep frequently, publishing stuff they have not properly vetted, but which fits their ideology and narrative (the fact that the liberal left does this all the time too does not make it right).

It could take me a week or so to hear back, if they take the time to look into it seriously.

[DaKardii]

Doctorate student expelled from Swiss university for anti-CCP tweets

https://www.nzz.ch/english/swiss-phd-st ... ld.1638771

[spottybrowncow]

On a less ominous, but still sobering note - I just purchased a firearm at Bass Pro Shop and noticed something on the ATF 4473 I'd never seen before; there are now check boxes for male, female, and NON-BINARY.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/atf-form-4 ... ection%20A

Now, I don't even know where to start on this. It says on the form that answering falsely is a felony (unless, of course, you're Hunter Biden). And yet, you can check that you're "non-binary," whatever the F*** that is, and it's OK? I'm a staunch 2A amendment supporter, but I have no problem with background checks for FFL license holders (only because they're high-volume, not for private sales). But this takes a very serious issue and reduces it to a joke! Again, i don't even know where to start.

[Guest]

On a less ominous, but still sobering note - I just purchased a firearm at Bass Pro Shop and noticed something on the ATF 4473 I'd never seen before; there are now check boxes for male, female, and NON-BINARY.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/atf-form-4 ... ection%20A

Now, I don't even know where to start on this. It says on the form that answering falsely is a felony (unless, of course, you're Hunter Biden). And yet, you can check that you're "non-binary," whatever the F*** that is, and it's OK? I'm a staunch 2A amendment supporter, but I have no problem with background checks for FFL license holders (only because they're high-volume, not for private sales). But this takes a very serious issue and reduces it to a joke! Again, i don't even know where to start.

If given the option, I ALWAYS check non-binary. I could always change my mind later. MOCK THE BROKEN SYSTEM.

[spottybrowncow]

On a less ominous, but still sobering note - I just purchased a firearm at Bass Pro Shop and noticed something on the ATF 4473 I'd never seen before; there are now check boxes for male, female, and NON-BINARY.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/atf-form-4 ... ection%20A

Now, I don't even know where to start on this. It says on the form that answering falsely is a felony (unless, of course, you're Hunter Biden). And yet, you can check that you're "non-binary," whatever the F*** that is, and it's OK? I'm a staunch 2A amendment supporter, but I have no problem with background checks for FFL license holders (only because they're high-volume, not for private sales). But this takes a very serious issue and reduces it to a joke! Again, i don't even know where to start.

If given the option, I ALWAYS check non-binary. I could always change my mind later. MOCK THE BROKEN SYSTEM.

I wholeheartedly agree with your spirit.
But what if I check N-B, and my form is rejected for the first time? Now I'm on the defensive, and THEY hold all the cards. I don't disagree with you at all, I'm just being practical.

[John]

** 08-Aug-2021 World View: Still skeptical

> I am still skeptical. I have asked some well connected sources to
> look into it.

> Reasons for my skepticism:

> 1 - This appears to have a SOLE source, J.R. Nyquist. I can't
> find any sources other than those ultimately quoting him in the
> Epoch Times.

> 2 - Epoch Times was founded/is run by Falun Gong refugees. They of
> course hate the CCP (with good reason) and want to bring it down.
> They overstep frequently, publishing stuff they have not properly
> vetted, but which fits their ideology and narrative (the fact that
> the liberal left does this all the time too does not make it
> right).

> It could take me a week or so to hear back, if they take the time
> to look into it seriously.

Yesterday you suggested in another thread that China has developed EMP
weapons but the US has not. What is your source for that claim? Do
you even have a source? Do I need to contact some "well-connected"
sources of my own to see if you're telling the truth? In fact, you
NEVER quote any sources that I can recall right now.

So in this case, I spent several days researching these issues, I
collected a number of sources, and I summarized them in my post. But
none of that research means anything to you. It's as if I never did
it. You must think that I'm a credulous idiot. You just come in,
announce that you're skeptical, and say that you'll track down some
REAL sources, some "well-connected" sources.

Your main reason is that it was originally published in 2005 by the
Epoch Times. So what exactly are you saying? That the reporter at
the Epoch Times hated the CCP, so he made the whole thing up, and that
everyone is complete fooled? Is that what you're suggesting? If
that's what you think, please say so, because I'd like to see you make
that argument.

It's not true that Nyquist was the only source. Christoph Becker was
also a source. If you read Nyquist's blog, he references a number of
sources of his own. We're not just credulous idiots who believe
anything we read. We cross-check everything with other sources, and
when the sources match up, we reasonably conclude that the claims are
likely to be correct.

Here's another source for you to check out:

-- Chi Haotian / Is Nazi China emerging?
http://www.indiandefencereview.com/spot ... merging/0/
(Indian Defense Review, 25-Sep-2011)

This article was written ten years ago, and the author debated whether
Chi Haotian's letter was authentic, and came to the same conclusion as
I did: that if it hadn't been authentic, then someone would have said
so. It was for the same reason -- that no Chinese officials have
denied the validity of the story.

I'm quite familiar with the story behind the Falun Gong and the Epoch
Times, but perhaps you don't understand how the world works. The NY
Times can lie all it wants. Russia Today can lie all it wants. China
Daily can lie all it wants. If they're caught lying, they can always
depend on many others to come to their defense.

But that's not true of the Epoch Times. When it posts something like
the Chi Haotian story, then if there's an error it will be subject to
enormous ridicule, and disavowal.

But that didn't happen with this story. In fact, there's been almost
silence ever since the story was published. In 16 years, there has
been no word from Chinese officials including Chi. Why is that?
Because they don't want to call attention to the article. They'd
rather stick with silence, and just count on people like you to reject
it because you're "skeptical." They know that the speech is valid, so
they're better off leaving people like you "skeptical." The Chinese
are good at manipulating Westerners, and even know how to manipulate
Westerners with silence.

So who are your "well-connected" sources? Are they Chinese officials
or "well-connected" to Chinese officials? If they gave you an answer
either confirming or repudiating Chi's speech, that would actually be
major international news.

So when you hear back from your "well-connected" friends, please be
certain to post what they tell you. I'm very interested in hearing.
I predict that your "well-connected" friends will either not answer at
all or will give a non-committal answer, because if they said anything
else, the Chinese Communists would throw them into a pit. They would
rather say nothing, because they know you won't bother to do any
actual research, and you'll just remain "skeptical."

[John]

** 09-Aug-2021 World View: Spread of Wuhan Coronavirus in China

A web site reader has called my attention to medical studies in
South America that raise the question of whether Chinese vaccines
are very effective against the lambda variant.

-- Infectivity and immune escape of the new SARS-CoV-2 variant of
interest Lambda
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21259673v1
(Medrxiv, 1-Jul-2021)

This corresponds to more prosaically written reports that the
many people who have received the Sinovac or Sinopharm vaccines
are still getting sick from Covid. This may be not because the
vaccine is initially ineffective, but instead because its
effectiveness wears off within a few months.

And this corresponds to reports that the delta variant is
spreading rapidly within China itself:

• Spread of Wuhan Coronavirus delta variant in China (Bloomberg)

If the virus continues to spread in China, it would be a major
political disaster for Xi Jinping, who has essentially bet his
leadership on having already won the historic war against Covid,
claiming proof that Communism is superior to Western Democracies. Not
only was the virus not conquered in China, as Xi claimed, but the
China vaccines have been shown to be inferior to vaccines from the
hated democracies.

It's now clear that the Wuhan Virus Event was supposed to work as
follows:

• The virus was developed in the Wuhan and planted in the wet
  market. Steps were taken, including super-spreader events, to make
  sure that it spread around Wuhan. Doctors and scientists were jailed
  if they reported what was going on.
• The Chinese would claim that it was mutated from bats, jumping to
  humans in a wet market, and that China was a victim of the virus.
• China would "innocently" spread the virus around the world, while
  protecting China, and nobody would catch on.
• Xi Jinping would loudly claim that the virus was a historic war,
  and that China had defeated the virus long before the Western
  Democracies.

The Wuhan Virus Event was to be some sort of "beta test" of technology
to develop lethal viruses and spread them around the world.
Unfortunately for them, it backfired badly because it's clear to
pretty much everyone outside of China that China is completely to
blame.

This has also been one of several events that have temporarily
derailed Xi Jinping's plan for a major nuclear attack to defeat it in
one blow, and then use a biological weapon to "clean America up" so
that its land can be colonized by the Chinese.

There have been a string of events that have temporarily derailed Xi
Jinping's plans and threw him off his script:

• Trump refused to sign the US-China trade deal in May
  2019;
• Trump shut down travel from China and Europe in early February
  2020 in order to defeat China's plan, and mitigate the spread of the
  virus. This infuriated the Chinese.
• Trump's Operation Warp Speed developed three vaccines much faster
  than the Chinese (or anyone expected), thus proving the superiority of
  Western Democracies to Chinese Communism.
• The Communists had wanted Biden to win, because they expected
  Biden to remove Trump's sanctions. The Chinese are shocked that Biden
  is not doing so.
• Countries like Thailand and Indonesia are rejecting the
  Chinese vaccines, which don't seem to work, in favor of the
  Western vaccines, thus humiliating the Chinese further.
• The delta variant is spread in China with two humiliations for
  China: It shows that Xi Jinping was wrong when he says that he won the
  war, and it shows that the China's vaccines are inferior.

Xi Jinping is getting desperate to show some results. I've been
expecting him to announce or do something major in the Sep-Oct time
frame. This might be a war, or it might be something domestic. The
spread of the virus in China must be really throwing him off his game,
and opening him up to enormous criticisms and threats from opposing
factions.

One sign is that China has been taking steps to cut itself off
financially from the West. I'm not sure what this is signaling,
but it could be something major.


---- Sources:

-- China records 94 more locally transmitted cases, including 41 in
flood-ravaged Henan province
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science ... us-hits-17
(South China Morning Post, Hong Kong, 9-Aug-2021)

-- China Punishes Dozens of Officials as Delta Outbreaks Spread
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ks-expands
(Bloomberg, 9-Aug-2021)

-- Covid: Is China's vaccine success waning in Asia?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-57845644
(BBC, 19-Jul-2021)

-- China: How Delta threatens a prized zero Covid strategy
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-58095909
(BBC, 6-Aug-2021)

-- Infectivity and immune escape of the new SARS-CoV-2 variant of
interest Lambda
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21259673v1
(Medrxiv, 1-Jul-2021)