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Re: Russia as modern Habsburg Empire

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FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 am
Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:05 am
Navigator wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:52 am
... probably while the Chinese occupy USA.

I am in the final stages of my preparations for what's coming. Hope you all are too.
If the Chinese occupy the USA, then the world will be a glowing amoeba of radiation. How do you expect to prepare for that?
I am also puzzled by this comment about occupation.
I'm pretty sure he means occupy in the sense of "keep busy" (for example, with Taiwan) and not a physical occupation of the US.

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Re: Russia as modern Habsburg Empire

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Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:22 am
FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 am
Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:05 am


If the Chinese occupy the USA, then the world will be a glowing amoeba of radiation. How do you expect to prepare for that?
I am also puzzled by this comment about occupation.
I'm pretty sure he means occupy in the sense of "keep busy" (for example, with Taiwan) and not a physical occupation of the US.
Yes, maybe so. But after the discussion of Chi Hao Tian's speech, either 'occupation' is possible. Perhaps saying we'd be preoccupied would alleviate this confusion.

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Re: Russia as modern Habsburg Empire

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Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:22 am
FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 am
Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:05 am


If the Chinese occupy the USA, then the world will be a glowing amoeba of radiation. How do you expect to prepare for that?
I am also puzzled by this comment about occupation.
I'm pretty sure he means occupy in the sense of "keep busy" (for example, with Taiwan) and not a physical occupation of the US.
It sounds to me like he meant occupation of the US mainland.

John was talking about the Chinese taking over the US Central bank on a finance thread and making the Yuan interchangeable/convertable with the US dollar. Sounds like they are both counting on a US defeat now.

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Re: Russia as modern Habsburg Empire

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FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 am
Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:05 am
Navigator wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:52 am
... probably while the Chinese occupy USA.

I am in the final stages of my preparations for what's coming. Hope you all are too.
If the Chinese occupy the USA, then the world will be a glowing amoeba of radiation. How do you expect to prepare for that?
I am also puzzled by this comment about occupation.
I should have written "keep us busy" instead of "occupy" I certainly did not mean take over the USA.

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Re: Russia as modern Habsburg Empire

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Navigator wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:56 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 am
Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:05 am


If the Chinese occupy the USA, then the world will be a glowing amoeba of radiation. How do you expect to prepare for that?
I am also puzzled by this comment about occupation.
I should have written "keep us busy" instead of "occupy" I certainly did not mean take over the USA.
Thanks for the clarification. You mentioned finishing preparations. What timeline are you looking at going forward and at what point will preparations turn into something we either have or don't have?

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Re: Russia as modern Habsburg Empire

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FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:55 pm
Navigator wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:56 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 7:52 am

I am also puzzled by this comment about occupation.
I should have written "keep us busy" instead of "occupy" I certainly did not mean take over the USA.
Thanks for the clarification. You mentioned finishing preparations. What timeline are you looking at going forward and at what point will preparations turn into something we either have or don't have?
I think the Russians will move vs Ukraine in January, early Feb at the latest.

I think the Chinese will move vs Taiwan in April, but they may postpone till October at the latest.

Their intel services will be telling them they need to be done before the US 2022 elections.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:30 am
There's so much garbage written here, trying to unpack it is like trying to sift through a truckload of rotten putrid sewage.

The project-syndicate article is so tired and lame, I lost interest after the first sentence, "threat to world peace..." LOL why not just say, "dangerous to our damocrassah..." It could have written by a bot programmed by Neo-Con Incorporated.

A summary is just boilerplate "wag the dog": Start a war to hide problems at home. Oh, the West never did such a thing...LOL. Don't worry though, no one is going to war.

Navigator is right that Biden and Europe will do nothing about Putin's moves. You all don't remember how often Russia made moves against her satellites in the past and the West did nothing. That's because they don't pose an existential threat. Pat Buchanan has repeatedly written at length about this. Navigator is also careful to say Russia wants the 'industrial areas' of Ukraine - not to take it over. What is pretty clear is that Russia does not intend to take it all the way to Kiev.

What's really going on is that for decades Russia has protested against NATO expansion to her doorstep, but have been ignored by an emboldened West who took full advantage of the fall of the Soviet Empire. Now she is fed up and will not allow Ukraine to become a NATO member. They are proving how serious they are by their current military preparations.

Despite what Psaki and Europeans say publicly about it, expect that some agreement will be made, in effect a guarantee that Ukraine will not be made a member. We won't find out about the secret agreement for 20-30 yrs.

There is absolutely no indication that Europeans are itching for a full-blown war against Russia and are willing to die to protect Eastern Ukraine "for our damocrassah...". They are just as fat, lazy, and entitled as Americans and want to enjoy sunny vacations in the Mediterranean and get all kinds of free stuff from the Money Printers. They have no taste of hardship and aren't going to leave their spas and warm living rooms to "save our damocrassah.. LOL".

Russia has already moved tanks into Donbas and will occupy it for a long time. They probably hope the de-facto occupation will become permanent, like the Israelis do for the West Bank. The West will run their mouths and issue some sanctions.

As for the "illegal annexation" of Crimea, that is a total joke. Crimea was fake-gifted to Ukraine in 1954 while still a Soviet state and the thinking was they'd always be part of the Soviet Union and under Russian control. You could just as well call the entire European occupation of North America as an "illegal annexation", so using terms like that is strictly for the gullible normies. Use your propaganda as you like. It's all BS.

All that other BS, like commenting on how weak the Russian military is, is just to whip up the proles against the Russians and pick a fight. A tired old Neo-Con exercise. You could say the same about N Korea, but no one tangles with them. The West won't tangle with Russia as well. And they probably aren't as easy pickings as you think, especially with those S-500s. The West is only effective when they have heavy air support, otherwise ground forces tend to hunker down and shelter in place.

Have you seen the vids where Russians run US vehicles off the road in Syria? Russians are not afraid to mix it up with Americans who are more concerned with a gender fluid military that martial prowess.

Finally anyone who cites what Biden says or "thinks" is nothing but an idiot and fool and is to be totally ignored. Biden has no mental faculties and simply reads off policies handed to him by people like Blinken and other handlers. He couldn't even say one word about the Omicron variant when asked by a reporter, until he got to the WH and received orders and prepared statements from his handling team. His main concern is ice cream and Teen Magazine. The whole world knows this including Russia and China of course.
Refreshing to see such an accurate post. Navi is a very sharp guy, but BP points out things that should make you doubt even the smartest people at this forum, especially regarding "what will happen." When one gets big picture things like this wrong, it's hard for me to take any big time prediction seriously since it shows just how influential lies, propaganda, and the zog are.

Stating that the Russians are a current threat to world peace is so off the mark, given world complexities and the real enemies of freedom (haven't you all re-thought freedom given what we've seen in America in just the last two years???), I don't even know where to begin.

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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Burner Prime wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:30 am
Guest wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:27 am


Good analysis, but there is more. There is a sizable Muslim minority in Russia (both officially and unofficially). The average ethnic Russian avoids military service (as much for health issues as an unwillingness to endure hardship). A large % of the special forces is Muslim, often Chechen. Entire units fighting in Ukraine were Asian Buryats. They were conscripts and had no idea they were being sent to fight in Ukraine until they got off the train. Will the Muslims and Asians stay loyal to Russia?

Russia is rotten to the core. Russia's only hope of survival is to break up. And they know it, and they refuse to accept reality, so they launch these hopeless wars.

...

Russia is coming to an ignominious end. And they know it. Why is Portugal littered with Russians pursuing golden visas and Portuguese citizenship? They know Russia is a failed state. Why have they flooded into the UK? Why do they educate their children in the West?

They know.
There's so much garbage written here, trying to unpack it is like trying to sift through a truckload of rotten putrid sewage.

The project-syndicate article is so tired and lame, I lost interest after the first sentence, "threat to world peace..." LOL why not just say, "dangerous to our damocrassah..." It could have written by a bot programmed by Neo-Con Incorporated.

A summary is just boilerplate "wag the dog": Start a war to hide problems at home. Oh, the West never did such a thing...LOL. Don't worry though, no one is going to war.

Navigator is right that Biden and Europe will do nothing about Putin's moves. You all don't remember how often Russia made moves against her satellites in the past and the West did nothing. That's because they don't pose an existential threat. Pat Buchanan has repeatedly written at length about this. Navigator is also careful to say Russia wants the 'industrial areas' of Ukraine - not to take it over. What is pretty clear is that Russia does not intend to take it all the way to Kiev.

What's really going on is that for decades Russia has protested against NATO expansion to her doorstep, but have been ignored by an emboldened West who took full advantage of the fall of the Soviet Empire. Now she is fed up and will not allow Ukraine to become a NATO member. They are proving how serious they are by their current military preparations.
Why should anyone really care about Russia's feelings? All those countries wanting to join NATO have one reason: Russia. It is Russia's decades long bad conduct that has pushed all these countries to joining a collective security organization. Maybe if Russia put some effort into being a good neighbor instead of a shitty one, there would be no such desire. And the idea that Russia should have some kind of veto over the actions of its neighbors is laughable.
Despite what Psaki and Europeans say publicly about it, expect that some agreement will be made, in effect a guarantee that Ukraine will not be made a member. We won't find out about the secret agreement for 20-30 yrs.

There is absolutely no indication that Europeans are itching for a full-blown war against Russia and are willing to die to protect Eastern Ukraine "for our damocrassah...". They are just as fat, lazy, and entitled as Americans and want to enjoy sunny vacations in the Mediterranean and get all kinds of free stuff from the Money Printers. They have no taste of hardship and aren't going to leave their spas and warm living rooms to "save our damocrassah.. LOL".
This, unfortunately, is true to various degrees. The real problems is certain countries (cough*Germany*cough) who are hell bent on being Putin's bitches. In any kind of sane Europe Nord Stream 2 would have been cancelled years ago. It's mostly the countries that spent decades under the Russian boot who are standing up while the West Europeans seem to not care.
Russia has already moved tanks into Donbas and will occupy it for a long time. They probably hope the de-facto occupation will become permanent, like the Israelis do for the West Bank. The West will run their mouths and issue some sanctions.
What? Russians in Donbas? Certainly not! Well, maybe, but they're just volunteers. Certainly not serving soldiers being paid by the Russian government. Nope.
As for the "illegal annexation" of Crimea, that is a total joke. Crimea was fake-gifted to Ukraine in 1954 while still a Soviet state and the thinking was they'd always be part of the Soviet Union and under Russian control. You could just as well call the entire European occupation of North America as an "illegal annexation", so using terms like that is strictly for the gullible normies. Use your propaganda as you like. It's all BS.
Looks like you've bought the Russian propaganda. Russia "owned" Crimea for about 170 years. It was Ukrainian for 60 years before Russia broke its treaty pledge to Ukraine and stole it. Remember that Russia pledged to observe and protect Ukraine's territorial integrity.
All that other BS, like commenting on how weak the Russian military is, is just to whip up the proles against the Russians and pick a fight. A tired old Neo-Con exercise. You could say the same about N Korea, but no one tangles with them. The West won't tangle with Russia as well. And they probably aren't as easy pickings as you think, especially with those S-500s. The West is only effective when they have heavy air support, otherwise ground forces tend to hunker down and shelter in place.
I'm hardly a neo-con and I'd prefer to not have war with anyone. On one 'tangles' with North Korea because it has nothing that anyone wants. The rest of the world would be happy to ignore it if not for the Kim's petulant need to get attention. The West doesn't want to fight Russia because it doesn't really want anything from Russia that it can't get from free trade. S-500 is only just going into service and most likely will continue a long line of over-hyped Russian air defenses. And it isn't that Western ground forces need air strikes, it's that they see no send in men to take casualties when you can send in a bomb or missile instead. The West values its soldiers and has no desire to throw them away when munitions are much cheaper.
Have you seen the vids where Russians run US vehicles off the road in Syria? Russians are not afraid to mix it up with Americans who are more concerned with a gender fluid military that martial prowess.
You're getting the wrong message from those videos. It's that the US forces have orders on what they can and can't do and don't engage in stupid dick measuring.
Finally anyone who cites what Biden says or "thinks" is nothing but an idiot and fool and is to be totally ignored. Biden has no mental faculties and simply reads off policies handed to him by people like Blinken and other handlers. He couldn't even say one word about the Omicron variant when asked by a reporter, until he got to the WH and received orders and prepared statements from his handling team. His main concern is ice cream and Teen Magazine. The whole world knows this including Russia and China of course.
Yes, Biden is approaching senility, but so what? The people surrounding him are pushing the same policies he would were he not a vegetable so it makes no difference.

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Re: Russia as modern Habsburg Empire

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Navigator wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:14 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:55 pm
Navigator wrote:
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:56 pm


I should have written "keep us busy" instead of "occupy" I certainly did not mean take over the USA.
Thanks for the clarification. You mentioned finishing preparations. What timeline are you looking at going forward and at what point will preparations turn into something we either have or don't have?
I think the Russians will move vs Ukraine in January, early Feb at the latest.

I think the Chinese will move vs Taiwan in April, but they may postpone till October at the latest.

Their intel services will be telling them they need to be done before the US 2022 elections.
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

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I don't understand the Russian stuff, as I said, because while there are certain things that are not ideal in the world, as BP says, other things that are a bit controversial can still not matter in the larger picture of "peace."

The quickest way to the summary judgment is that the USA and China have far greater impact and have done far greater damage regarding "peace" and just being a normal human with a healthy family, in the last 30, 20, 10 and 5 years. When you see how many lies there have been over a major world player (Russia) that hasn't really done anything, as opposed to China and all of its disgusting machinations, you are silly to not consider that perhaps you don't know what you are talking about if you make a big issue out of Russia. The culture the US has exported for most of our lives is a consumption and apparently, never ending marxist cultural type, repugnant to anyone who loves women, family, children and God.

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