** 28-Dec-2021 World View: International law and invasions
Burner Prime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:19 am
> That is right. We can pick and choose timelines or the text of
> documents in place, or the ability of certain powers to enforce
> those laws at a given point in time. But the claims of legitimacy
> or moral superiority are always owned by the victors. And those
> claims die over time. Well that is except in the US over slavery
> reparations - but that's only because grifters are trying to milk
> the system, to shake the money tree by laying any claim however
> flimsy.
> The point is you all choose whatever propaganda suits you to make
> your argument. But you neglect analyzing the whole situation from
> 40,000 ft. Whether legal, illegal, nonsense, BS, legit,
> illegitimate or however you want to label it, Russia has security
> concerns. They are not handling it as skillfully as Western Jewish
> lawyers might, but they have determined at some point they have to
> act to secure their interests, if even in a clumsy manner.
> They needed full control of naval bases in Crimea for security
> reasons so they took it. You can label it 'illegal' all day long,
> but I don't care about your labels.
I take it back. I said that your previous post was clear and logical,
but now I see that I was completely wrong about you. The above is a
totally incoherent mishmash of ranting, name-calling, wokeism,
anti-Semitism, and illogic. No wonder you and Cool Breeze get along
so well. I don't even understand what point you're making, except to
say that Russia can invade anyone they want and it's all perfectly ok
with you.
So let's recap how Russia repeatedly violated international law in
Ukraine since 2014 -- by illegally invading eastern Ukraine, by
shooting down an unarmed passenger plane with a Buk missile, by
illegally invading and annexing Crimea, by illegally attacking
maritime traffic in the Sea of Azov, and so forth.
So these acts are clearly illegal, and in my opinion and experience,
anyone who says they're not illegal is self-identifying as a Russian
troll.
If you really believe the crap you've written, then you must think
that it would be perfectly ok for the US to invade Cuba. After all,
China, Russia and Venezuela have all promised to defend Cuba, and
those countries may decide to launch an attack on the US from Cuba.
So by your own reasoning, it's perfectly ok for the US to invade Cuba.
Mexico is even worse, as it's believed that China is installing cadres
and equipment in Mexico in preparation for an invasion of the US.
So it's perfectly OK for the US to invade Cuba and Mexico, for exactly
the reasons you've stated. Right?
I've actually written briefly about the annexation of Hawaii:
** 5-Jul-14 World View -- Activists demand restoration of the Kingdom of Hawaii
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e140705
But that's not relevant to today, because in the 1800s the world was a
very different place. The Europeans colonized African countries in
the "Scramble for Africa." France colonized French Indochina. Prior
to that, the UK colonized the British Empire, Magellan conquered
several nations on behalf of Spain, and the Muslims conquered the
Mideast and the region beyond.
In the 1900s, the world became traumatized by two world wars and
numerous other wars, and looked for ways to bring war to an end.
(Lol!) So they set up various refugee agencies, the world health
organization, the world bank, the IMF, the Food and Agriculture
Organization, the United Nations and they set up a system of
international law.
After WW II, most of these colonial empires disappeared. Europe gave
up its African colonies, France gave up Vietnam, Britain dissolved the
British empire, and the Soviet Union dissolved. The conquests that
were typical of the 1800s became illegal, and America became policeman
of the world, going to war to defend South Korea from North Korea,
going to war to prevent a Communist takeover of the democracy in South
Vietnam, going to war to eject Iraq from Kuwait, and so forth, with
some efforts more successful than others.
So now today we have new situations -- China annexing the South China
Sea, China threatening to invade Taiwan and Japan, Russia annexing
parts of Georgia and Ukraine, Russia annexing the Sea of Azov, and
Russia threatening a new invasion of Ukraine.
So all of these annexations and invasions can be justified by various
trolls, but they are all illegal under international law, and they all
threaten the international order. One of them will probably be the
trigger for World War III. Happy?
Burner Prime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:19 am
> No one ever considers if the shoe was on the other foot. But it
> was when Russia started moving missiles to Cuba and the US was not
> going to stand for it.
That's silly. It started right after WW II.
** President Harry Truman and the Truman Doctrine
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... 060919.htm
Burner Prime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 2:19 am
> As for accusations of being a Russian troll, you guys are just
> petty and stupid and I won't even dignify it. It is just so
> childish and low IQ and such a lame ad hominem that serves try to
> de-legitimize my points. And if you really believe that then just
> delete my posts from here on. But I don't think you do, you're
> just hurling insults like a 4th grader.
Methinks thou dost protest too much. And I do think you're a Russian
troll.