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[John]

** 25-Jan-2022 World View: Split in Ukranian government

> The Ukrainian government is now saying that a Russian invasion is
> NOT imminent, despite Biden's claims to the contrary.

> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ukrai ... -concerned
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/w ... riefing-11

> What the hell is going on?

There's a split in the Ukrainian government, with some people
concerned about a Russian invasion, and others claiming (possibly
because they're Russian sympathizers) that the Russians are bluffing.
Nobody really knows except Putin.

It was the same as the split between Churchill and Chamberlain in 1939
Britain.

It's the same today in Washington, with many people concerned about a
Chinese invasion of Taiwan, and others (Democrats, facebook, google,
mainstream media) who are making a great deal of money by being paid
off by the Chinese Communists and who consider China's atrocities and
threats to be unimportant.

[Guest]

It's the same today in Washington, with many people concerned about a
Chinese invasion of Taiwan, and others (Democrats, facebook, google,
mainstream media) who are making a great deal of money by being paid
off by the Chinese Communists and who consider China's atrocities and
threats to be unimportant.

Traitors everywhere. America is already dead.

Bring on the nuclear war. I want to, at the very least, BBQ my enemies before I die, or even after I am dead.

[DaKardii]

There's a split in the Ukrainian government, with some people
concerned about a Russian invasion, and others claiming (possibly
because they're Russian sympathizers) that the Russians are bluffing.
Nobody really knows except Putin.

It was the same as the split between Churchill and Chamberlain in 1939
Britain.

It's the same today in Washington, with many people concerned about a
Chinese invasion of Taiwan, and others (Democrats, facebook, google,
mainstream media) who are making a great deal of money by being paid
off by the Chinese Communists and who consider China's atrocities and
threats to be unimportant.

What's REALLY bizarre is Biden's rhetoric over the past few days.

Not even a week ago, he was going off about "minor incursions," angering Zelensky and forcing Biden's own staff to issue a retraction.

And now, we have Biden insisting on an imminent invasion, and Zelensky is trying to downplay those remarks in order to prevent mass panic and a subsequent economic collapse.

Either way, we have a recurring theme. Biden can't stay on the same page as Zelensky. He's always either reading behind or reading ahead.

I can't tell if this is a sign that Biden's mental decline has gotten worse, or if this is just more intentional sabotage of American foreign policy like what we saw during the Afghanistan withdrawal.

[Cool Breeze]

There's a split in the Ukrainian government, with some people
concerned about a Russian invasion, and others claiming (possibly
because they're Russian sympathizers) that the Russians are bluffing.
Nobody really knows except Putin.

It was the same as the split between Churchill and Chamberlain in 1939
Britain.

It's the same today in Washington, with many people concerned about a
Chinese invasion of Taiwan, and others (Democrats, facebook, google,
mainstream media) who are making a great deal of money by being paid
off by the Chinese Communists and who consider China's atrocities and
threats to be unimportant.

What's REALLY bizarre is Biden's rhetoric over the past few days.

Not even a week ago, he was going off about "minor incursions," angering Zelensky and forcing Biden's own staff to issue a retraction.

And now, we have Biden insisting on an imminent invasion, and Zelensky is trying to downplay those remarks in order to prevent mass panic and a subsequent economic collapse.

Either way, we have a recurring theme. Biden can't stay on the same page as Zelensky. He's always either reading behind or reading ahead.

I can't tell if this is a sign that Biden's mental decline has gotten worse, or if this is just more intentional sabotage of American foreign policy like what we saw during the Afghanistan withdrawal.

Yes, a loser half dead president saying crazy things when his ratings are historically low even for silly Democrats. The real question is, "How many warmongers in the swamp are promoting this?" Joe Puppet is just another manifestation of how decrepit the US presidency is, in general.

[Cool Breeze]

** 25-Jan-2022 World View: Split in Ukranian government

> The Ukrainian government is now saying that a Russian invasion is
> NOT imminent, despite Biden's claims to the contrary.

> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ukrai ... -concerned
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/w ... riefing-11

> What the hell is going on?

There's a split in the Ukrainian government, with some people
concerned about a Russian invasion, and others claiming (possibly
because they're Russian sympathizers) that the Russians are bluffing.
Nobody really knows except Putin.

It was the same as the split between Churchill and Chamberlain in 1939
Britain.

It's the same today in Washington, with many people concerned about a
Chinese invasion of Taiwan, and others (Democrats, facebook, google,
mainstream media) who are making a great deal of money by being paid
off by the Chinese Communists and who consider China's atrocities and
threats to be unimportant.

John, how much do you think the swamp/Military Industrial Complex influences a loser like Biden to make war look attractive and urge him to "declare" Y against nation Z? On a scale of 1-10 how pro war is the US currently (cabinet, DoD and bureaucrats), all things considered?

[Trevor]

I don't think Putin can afford to back down. If he does, he's going to look weak back home. Even if we did make some form of agreement to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, I doubt it'll matter. At most, it might postpone invasion for a year or two, allowing him to ensure Europe wouldn't do anything about it. I have my doubts about even punishing sanctions deterring him, since China's currently still open to Russian markets.

Nobody wants to get involved here, because after all, why should we care about Ukraine? Our humiliation in Afghanistan and increasing "woke" politics has pretty well shattered the high opinion of our military that existed even a few years ago. Nevertheless, I'd still rate our capabilities above that of Russia.

I suspect Biden is in desperate need of a win. Polls have him at the low 40s or even 30s, worse than Trump with a much friendlier media. The price of food has skyrocketed, the price of gas has skyrocketed, Afghanistan is now controlled by the Taliban, Covid continues to ravage the country, crime is through the roof, and all but the safest Democrats are distancing themselves from him. Problem is, this is more likely to turn into another humiliation for him.

We have two unpleasant choices before us. Either we send troops to Europe, possibly getting involved in a war with a major power, or we make symbolic actions that only encourages Putin to go further. If I was Xi Jinping, I'd be looking at the U.S. and wonder: would they really do anything to protect Taiwan? Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea has to be asking the same thing.

[Guest]

Just think: we could see the biggest war in Europe since 1945 because too many Americans were schooled by their media to think Trump was the Antichrist and Biden was a better choice.
It's a salutary lesson that should warn us in Britain to treat with extreme prejudice the hate-driven media witch-hunt against our (admittedly flawed) prime minister.

[FullMoon]

** 25-Jan-2022 World View: Split in Ukranian government

> The Ukrainian government is now saying that a Russian invasion is
> NOT imminent, despite Biden's claims to the contrary.

> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ukrai ... -concerned
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/w ... riefing-11

> What the hell is going on?

There's a split in the Ukrainian government, with some people
concerned about a Russian invasion, and others claiming (possibly
because they're Russian sympathizers) that the Russians are bluffing.
Nobody really knows except Putin.

It was the same as the split between Churchill and Chamberlain in 1939
Britain.

It's the same today in Washington, with many people concerned about a
Chinese invasion of Taiwan, and others (Democrats, facebook, google,
mainstream media) who are making a great deal of money by being paid
off by the Chinese Communists and who consider China's atrocities and
threats to be unimportant.

John, how much do you think the swamp/Military Industrial Complex influences a loser like Biden to make war look attractive and urge him to "declare" Y against nation Z? On a scale of 1-10 how pro war is the US currently (cabinet, DoD and bureaucrats), all things considered?

An excellent question indeed.

[FullMoon]

I don't think Putin can afford to back down. If he does, he's going to look weak back home. Even if we did make some form of agreement to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, I doubt it'll matter. At most, it might postpone invasion for a year or two, allowing him to ensure Europe wouldn't do anything about it. I have my doubts about even punishing sanctions deterring him, since China's currently still open to Russian markets.

Nobody wants to get involved here, because after all, why should we care about Ukraine? Our humiliation in Afghanistan and increasing "woke" politics has pretty well shattered the high opinion of our military that existed even a few years ago. Nevertheless, I'd still rate our capabilities above that of Russia.

I suspect Biden is in desperate need of a win. Polls have him at the low 40s or even 30s, worse than Trump with a much friendlier media. The price of food has skyrocketed, the price of gas has skyrocketed, Afghanistan is now controlled by the Taliban, Covid continues to ravage the country, crime is through the roof, and all but the safest Democrats are distancing themselves from him. Problem is, this is more likely to turn into another humiliation for him.

We have two unpleasant choices before us. Either we send troops to Europe, possibly getting involved in a war with a major power, or we make symbolic actions that only encourages Putin to go further. If I was Xi Jinping, I'd be looking at the U.S. and wonder: would they really do anything to protect Taiwan? Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea has to be asking the same thing.

Succinct and basically on point. Good post!

They'll try to let us crumble from the weight of corruption and degeneracy as we did to them.

It's in their interest to show our weakness without actually fighting, because fighting has no winners especially with 5,000+ nuclear weapons each. They're doing a good job of showing that we've been swimming naked and didn't realize that the tide has gone out. A few nudges is all it takes to topple a top heavy tower built on unsteady foundations.

[Guest]

Just think: we could see the biggest war in Europe since 1945 because too many Americans were schooled by their media to think Trump was the Antichrist and Biden was a better choice.
It's a salutary lesson that should warn us in Britain to treat with extreme prejudice the hate-driven media witch-hunt against our (admittedly flawed) prime minister.

Millions - I would even say billions - of people worldwide were well aware that Joe Biden was a catastrophe waiting to happen, and a good number of those watched in horror as the Deep State establishment managed to engineer his election, after years of manufactured riots about 'orange man bad' and other insane wokery. It is simply not credible to suggest that Biden legitimately won more votes than any President in history, it's impossible, the man can barely string a sentence together and his VP is singularly unpopular - another complete fix installing her.

Highest postal turnout ever.
Figures even Belarus would have been embarrassed by
This was a deplatform one candidate election.