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** 16-Feb-2022 World View: Vladimir Putin and Alina Kabaeva

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  • Vladimir Putin's mistress Alina Kabaeva

Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:35 am
> This is exactly my point of view, yes, DaK. The real communists
> are the Chinese and they have major power since our government
> leaders bestowed it on them, whether knowingly or not. Why
> wouldn't someone respect the way that VP is a leader of his own
> people? I haven't seen that here in the US perhaps since Ronald
> Reagan, and he wasn't an orthodox christian, or even have a front
> of being one.
Xeraphim1 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:57 pm
> Actually, neither China nor Russia are really communist. Both are
> fascist states with Russia having the trappings of democracy while
> China is more of an unapologetic police state.
Communism has completely collapsed everywhere it's been tried. It
collapsed in Russia and Cuba, and turned to Fascism in China, Vietnam
and Venezuela. The only country still practicing anything like
"communism" is North Korea.
Xeraphim1 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:57 pm
> Why would anyone respect Putin as a leader? He's lied, cheated and
> stolen to get into and keep himself in power as president for
> life. The only people allowed to run for office are the ones he
> allows while he and his cronies have looted the country and
> overseen its economic decline. he engages in crass and ridiculous
> spectacles supposedly to show his "manliness" such as riding
> horses bare chested or wrestling bears or lifting locomotives. he
> makes Trump look modest and bumble. And Putin isn't even a
> Christian other than in a generic non-religious sense.
In 2008, Vladimir Putin lied when he denied that he had an arrangement
with Dmitry Medvedev to become President again in 2012.

In 2008, Putin angrily denied that he was divorcing his wife for his
mistress Alina Kabaeva. Putin derided the "snotty noses and erotic
fantasies" of the journalists reporting the rumors.

In 2013, Putin divorced his wife Lyudmila Putina. Putin had been
married to Lyudmila Putina for 30 years, and they have two daughters.

**** Alina Kabaeva's award-winning 2004 performance as rhythmical gymnast.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k9XZB6O26w

** Putin angrily denies divorce rumors and shuts down newspaper reporting them
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... m#e080423b



** 8-May-12 World View -- Putin becomes president of Russia again, facing harsh new challenges
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e120508



** 7-Jun-13 World View -- Russia's president Vladimir Putin is getting a divorce
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e130607

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Xeraphim1 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:57 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:35 am

This is exactly my point of view, yes, DaK. The real communists are the Chinese and they have major power since our government leaders bestowed it on them, whether knowingly or not. Why wouldn't someone respect the way that VP is a leader of his own people? I haven't seen that here in the US perhaps since Ronald Reagan, and he wasn't an orthodox christian, or even have a front of being one.
Actually, neither China nor Russia are really communist. Both are fascist states with Russia having the trappings of democracy while China is more of an unapologetic police state.

Why would anyone respect Putin as a leader? He's lied, cheated and stolen to get into and keep himself in power as president for life. The only people allowed to run for office are the ones he allows while he and his cronies have looted the country and overseen its economic decline. he engages in crass and ridiculous spectacles supposedly to show his "manliness" such as riding horses bare chested or wrestling bears or lifting locomotives. he makes Trump look modest and bumble. And Putin isn't even a Christian other than in a generic non-religious sense.
Whether he is a christian, only God knows, but he has been to Mt Athos and publicly states he is an orthodox christian. I haven't seen that from a US president for years, nor any other supporting measure to back it. They don't allow degenerates to parade in their streets and corrupt the society and youth - very wise and also christian. He is for the sovereignty of his country, he disallowed the selling off of many capital and business functions of the former soviet states to outsiders (harvard boys do russia) which is largely why jews and thus the US don't like him, etc.

He is a great leader, regardless of what you say, and I just gave several reasons why. Think again.
And Russians know better. No one in Russia, whether they support Putin or not, thinks he is a good man. He is a common thief and lives a life of gross debauchery. He has corrupted the youth; they only think of money. The ones that can't become rich despair and become alcoholic or take drugs, which Putin does nothing stop. A numb population is much easier to control. He cares for nothing but his pleasure. In Russia, the press isn't allowed to criticize him, but Russians find out everything anyway. In America, the press does expose his true nature, and yet some Americans still believe Putin to be "good". The world is truly upside down now.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:37 am
Guest wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:31 am
And this will be Russia's excuse to attack Ukraine: they will be 'protecting' the two newly independent breakaway republics...
How many more war and fearmongering "guest" posts will be wrong?

It's not hard to be right around here, but DaK and I are making the others look silly.

I guess they'll keep predicting war even after it's over, that seems to be common around these parts.
No sign of withdrawal of Russian troops near Ukraine, Nato chief says - BBC News


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_Ix7UioB8

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Xeraphim1 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:57 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:35 am

This is exactly my point of view, yes, DaK. The real communists are the Chinese and they have major power since our government leaders bestowed it on them, whether knowingly or not. Why wouldn't someone respect the way that VP is a leader of his own people? I haven't seen that here in the US perhaps since Ronald Reagan, and he wasn't an orthodox christian, or even have a front of being one.
Actually, neither China nor Russia are really communist. Both are fascist states with Russia having the trappings of democracy while China is more of an unapologetic police state.

Why would anyone respect Putin as a leader? He's lied, cheated and stolen to get into and keep himself in power as president for life. The only people allowed to run for office are the ones he allows while he and his cronies have looted the country and overseen its economic decline. he engages in crass and ridiculous spectacles supposedly to show his "manliness" such as riding horses bare chested or wrestling bears or lifting locomotives. he makes Trump look modest and bumble. And Putin isn't even a Christian other than in a generic non-religious sense.
Whether he is a christian, only God knows, but he has been to Mt Athos and publicly states he is an orthodox christian. I haven't seen that from a US president for years, nor any other supporting measure to back it. They don't allow degenerates to parade in their streets and corrupt the society and youth - very wise and also christian. He is for the sovereignty of his country, he disallowed the selling off of many capital and business functions of the former soviet states to outsiders (harvard boys do russia) which is largely why jews and thus the US don't like him, etc.

He is a great leader, regardless of what you say, and I just gave several reasons why. Think again.
This is one of the dumbest posts I've read in a long time. When I started reading this, I thought you were being sarcastic, but after looking through your earlier comments, I realized that you were serious. When the Russians attack the Ukraine, I want you to come with the other Putin dupes and eat crow.

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Kavkaz Guest wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:41 pm
In Russia, the press isn't allowed to criticize him, but Russians find out everything anyway. In America, the press does expose his true nature, and yet some Americans still believe Putin to be "good". The world is truly upside down now.
Again, inaccurate characterization. Not one person on here who has countered the outrageous claims against Mr. Putin has ever said he was "good." We just point out characteristics in terms of policy that show he is a) a better leader and b) supports traditional things ...

neither of which America has.

Is he the cleanest shirt of dirty laundry? Perhaps. But let's be honest about what people are saying. Far too much of this nonsense happens on this board; the opposition in dialogue mischaracterizes what others are saying constantly.

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Mr Crow wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:06 pm
This is one of the dumbest posts I've read in a long time. When I started reading this, I thought you were being sarcastic, but after looking through your earlier comments, I realized that you were serious. When the Russians attack the Ukraine, I want you to come with the other Putin dupes and eat crow.
Falling for this proves how dumb you are already. When it doesn't happen, will you come back and apologize to me? I doubt it.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Whether he is a christian, only God knows, but he has been to Mt Athos and publicly states he is an orthodox christian. I haven't seen that from a US president for years, nor any other supporting measure to back it. They don't allow degenerates to parade in their streets and corrupt the society and youth - very wise and also christian. He is for the sovereignty of his country, he disallowed the selling off of many capital and business functions of the former soviet states to outsiders (harvard boys do russia) which is largely why jews and thus the US don't like him, etc.

He is a great leader, regardless of what you say, and I just gave several reasons why. Think again.
Two things.

1) "Putin is a great leader" is not a valid argument when it comes to the crisis in Ukraine. How Putin leads his own country does not change who is in the right or in the wrong, nor does it change whether intervention is worth it or not.

2) The American foreign policy establishment was seeking to destroy Russia before it even heard of the name "Vladimir Putin." And both then and now, it was not because of any Jewish lobby. It was because the foreign policy establishment is run by geographic determinists. By their logic, Russia is a bad guy solely by the virtue of its geographic location. Russia, along with China, India, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, and Ukraine, have (or had) the ability to screw up the grand Eurasian Balkans project that the foreign policy establishment obsesses over behind closed doors. Russia is also a threat to the petrodollar, which is another reason why the foreign policy establishment seeks its destruction.

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DaKardii wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:23 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:30 pm
Whether he is a christian, only God knows, but he has been to Mt Athos and publicly states he is an orthodox christian. I haven't seen that from a US president for years, nor any other supporting measure to back it. They don't allow degenerates to parade in their streets and corrupt the society and youth - very wise and also christian. He is for the sovereignty of his country, he disallowed the selling off of many capital and business functions of the former soviet states to outsiders (harvard boys do russia) which is largely why jews and thus the US don't like him, etc.

He is a great leader, regardless of what you say, and I just gave several reasons why. Think again.
Two things.

1) "Putin is a great leader" is not a valid argument when it comes to the crisis in Ukraine. How Putin leads his own country does not change who is in the right or in the wrong, nor does it change whether intervention is worth it or not.

2) The American foreign policy establishment was seeking to destroy Russia before it even heard of the name "Vladimir Putin." And both then and now, it was not because of any Jewish lobby. It was because the foreign policy establishment is run by geographic determinists. By their logic, Russia is a bad guy solely by the virtue of its geographic location. Russia, along with China, India, Iran, Pakistan, Turkey, and Ukraine, have (or had) the ability to screw up the grand Eurasian Balkans project that the foreign policy establishment obsesses over behind closed doors. Russia is also a threat to the petrodollar, which is another reason why the foreign policy establishment seeks its destruction.
1) is incorrect already. America is losing in every aspect, as is her half dead president = Russia wins in terms of NATO and in terms of optics, but mostly regarding the first topic they have an imperative on defense and positioning.

2) is mostly correct on its claims. I don't have a big enough gripe to dispute any of those larger issues as to why it always would be looked at as a challenge. Brower and friends would argue otherwise, by the way, as a side note.

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Xeraphim1 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 4:57 pm
Actually, neither China nor Russia are really communist. Both are fascist states with Russia having the trappings of democracy while China is more of an unapologetic police state.

Why would anyone respect Putin as a leader? He's lied, cheated and stolen to get into and keep himself in power as president for life. The only people allowed to run for office are the ones he allows while he and his cronies have looted the country and overseen its economic decline. he engages in crass and ridiculous spectacles supposedly to show his "manliness" such as riding horses bare chested or wrestling bears or lifting locomotives. he makes Trump look modest and bumble. And Putin isn't even a Christian other than in a generic non-religious sense.
Russia isn't fascist either. It's just a corrupt keptocracy with some nationalist tendencies.

China on the other hand is a different story. It is indeed fascist in all but name.

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Navigator wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:35 pm
Interesting how this is following the German strategy for the dismemberment and takeover of Czechoslovakia. Which included the "protection" of breakaway republics (and the participation of Hungary, and, believe it or not, Poland).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_oc ... hoslovakia

As a side note, from the headlines of the New York Times of August 28, 1939 (a few days before actual invasion of Poland):
"Hitler tells Paris he must get Danzig and Corridor"
"Berlin thinks door is left open to Peaceful Solution"

Funny how history repeats itself. Ukraine will be our modern day Czechoslovakia. What Putin really wants are the Baltic States, and hegemony over Eastern Europe (Poland, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Bulgaria). This is as much of a pipe dream as Hitler's Germania.
Putin is much more interested in uniting the Orthodox countries under one empire than he is in restoring the Iron Curtain. That means his imperial project won't be pushing further west once Ukraine is out of the way. Instead, it will be turning south.

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