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[DaKardii]

Anyone could have, pre WW2, read Mein Kampf and known what Hitler was going to do. He wrote it all down in his book.

Putin's statements regarding the breakup of the USSR and regarding Ukraine being "Russian" have been made for years. He has publicly stated this stuff.

I'm well aware that Putin has an imperial master plan. He's basically using Dugin's "Foundations of Geopolitics" as a playbook, after all. But Putin is no Hitler. Putin may talk about building an empire, but he doesn't place emphasis on building it all by force like Hitler did. In that regard, Xi is closer to Hitler than Putin is.

[DaKardii]

The pro-CCP right rears its head again. Idiot Nick Fuentes is literally calling for China to attack Taiwan.
https://t.me/nickjfuentes/5560
https://t.me/nickjfuentes/5561

[Xeraphim1]

Still here, and still maintain that opinion.

It must be nice to live on your planet.

I'm not convinced Putin had any intention to invade Ukraine until Biden (and to a lesser extent Zelensky) forced his hand.

At some point refusing to admit you were wrong is just stubbornness that accomplishes nothing.

Nobody forced Putin to invade Ukraine; he spent millions of $ and months putting troops into place exactly to accomplish what he's doing today.

[Xeraphim1]

So now the invasion of Ukraine by Russia is full on. As predicted here.

Here are some of my thoughts:

1. There is no global conspiracy, new world order, or whatever, who is manipulating events behind the scenes to force us into slavery dominated by shadowy financial figures. IMHO, this is based on conspiratorial thinking, which, as I have posted many times, is not rational or logical.

2. This war is literally Putin trying to restore Russia to what he believes is its “proper place in the world”. Which is what existed under the USSR, or even pre WW1 under the last Czars.

3. The West is going with Sanctions, which have never worked (outside of South Africa, which was, even under apartheid, a quasi-democracy that could only push its own people so far). It is wishful thinking that the Russian oligarchs are going to force Putin to stop. Look at what happens to any oligarch that gives Putin trouble. They have no more power/influence than the German industrialists who were ok with the installation of Hitler’s regime had in stopping Hitler. Putin controls the military, the Russian legal system, and the security forces (police and secret police). Cause Putin any discomfort and you’re dead.

4. The West is not going to help Ukraine, outside of maybe send it some more ammunition. We will all sit back in our living rooms and watch Ukraine die. The only chance of defending Ukraine was to have either given it NATO level security guarantees when it gave up its nukes (1994 Agreements under Clinton), have stood up to it when it took Crimea (2014 under Obama), or sent NATO peacekeeping forces into Ukraine when the current buildup started (2021 under Biden).

5. Putin is moving rather slowly, as he needs to build up domestic support (believe it or not, even Hitler worried about this), and build an increasingly stronger case, as bizarre as this seems, that Russia is defending itself against Western/NATO provocations and threats. Very soon we will see Russia convert over to a full wartime economy, with massive increases in military production, increases in manpower, and so on. He will quickly win the race to fully mobilize resources.

There is no such thing as a war time economy these days. There is little ability to surge any kind of production and Russia lacks both the means and money to accelerate production. Look over the past few years as those wonder weapons that are announced either never go into production or only in strictly limited amounts. The majority of Russia's Air Force flies somewhat modernized Flankers. The most common tank is a modernized T-72. Maybe you could get more small arms, but I'm sure Russia doesn't need that since it never throws anything away.

6. Putin cannot immediately take down the western financial system right now (which his hackers have the power to do), due to the concerns of the Chinese. Russia cannot be seen as the source of the coming financial crisis. The Chinese have to be able to blame the USA. For this reason, people in the western world still have a little bit of time to get their financial affairs in order. For example, I would start keeping paper bank statements and proof of payments on things like credit card bills and your mortgage.

I think you give Russia a bit too much credit. Would they try? Sure. But I don't think they could take down the major institutions.

7. This can, and will, spiral out of control. There are a host of scenarios that could widen the conflict, from Russian cyberattacks to Baltic/Polish involvement that the Russians don’t like. For example, Belarus’ Lukashenko has a grudge against Lithuania, what if he sent his own forces across that border in some punitive move. Or the Poles could decide that the territory the USSR took from them in 1939, which includes the area of Ukraine around Lviv (Polish Lvov), should be under them as the Ukraine falls apart.

I think Lukashenko understands his limitations. He's not going to attack a NATO member without the explicit backing of Uncle Vlad. And Poland has spent several decades now sucking up to Uncle Sam and won't do anything to jeopardize that. Poland has no wish to be outside NATO looking at the bear alone.

8. The Chinese are of course moving on their own agenda while Putin keeps everyone distracted. I think that they are currently hoping that Biden will send American troops to Europe, so that potential reinforcements to Asia are reduced.

Of course. They are playing a game of "Let's you and him fight."

9. NATOs largest military force is the Turkish army. I wouldn’t be surprised if Erdogan uses the coming chaos to decide to pull out of NATO and attack Greece. Other nonsense can be expected from most NATO members, as they move towards appeasement (Germany, Hungary, most of the minor countries). After all, they will say, Ukraine was under Russia for centuries.

This one I doubt. Erdogan is a mini dictator with delusions of grandeur, but he knows enough history to recall that Russia and Turkey have been opposed or at war for centuries. NATO membership prevents Putin from moving into Turkish territory. It also would cause friction in the case of a conflict with Greece. If Turkey leaves NATO, the full force of NATO would fall on him if he started something.

[Xeraphim1]

5. Putin is moving rather slowly, as he needs to build up domestic support (believe it or not, even Hitler worried about this), and build an increasingly stronger case, as bizarre as this seems, that Russia is defending itself against Western/NATO provocations and threats. Very soon we will see Russia convert over to a full wartime economy, with massive increases in military production, increases in manpower, and so on. He will quickly win the race to fully mobilize resources.

Russia IS responding against NATO provocations/threats. Note that I said "responding," and not "defending itself." Putin has indeed wanted a pretext to invade Ukraine for years, so he's obviously not entirely innocent.

No, it isn't responding. There were no threats or provocations from NATO against Russia. The only thing that NATO has done is some mild pushing back against Russian aggression. Your argument is the same as blaming the British for the Germans invading Czechoslovakia.

7. This can, and will, spiral out of control. There are a host of scenarios that could widen the conflict, from Russian cyberattacks to Baltic/Polish involvement that the Russians don’t like. For example, Belarus’ Lukashenko has a grudge against Lithuania, what if he sent his own forces across that border in some punitive move. Or the Poles could decide that the territory the USSR took from them in 1939, which includes the area of Ukraine around Lviv (Polish Lvov), should be under them as the Ukraine falls apart.

8. The Chinese are of course moving on their own agenda while Putin keeps everyone distracted. I think that they are currently hoping that Biden will send American troops to Europe, so that potential reinforcements to Asia are reduced.

9. NATOs largest military force is the Turkish army. I wouldn’t be surprised if Erdogan uses the coming chaos to decide to pull out of NATO and attack Greece. Other nonsense can be expected from most NATO members, as they move towards appeasement (Germany, Hungary, most of the minor countries). After all, they will say, Ukraine was under Russia for centuries.

Lukashenko has always had a maverick streak. If his tries something like attacking Lithuania without Putin's consent, it may well be the end of him. Of course, that's a big "if" at this point. As for Poland, no way it tries to take Ukrainian territory without getting itself kicked out of NATO. Such a move would be deemed a stab in the back by Washington, and possibly a casus belli for a Polish-American war. Same goes for Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania, which all possessed parts of present-day Ukrainian territory at some point between 1918 and 1939.

China wants the US and Russia at each others throats, and will do all it can to make sure that happens. Most likely it will side with Russia because it deems the US to be the bigger enemy, but it also plans to turn against Russia once the US is defeated. The ABSOLUTE LAST thing China wants, however, is a Russo-American alliance against it.

Surprisingly, there was actually been popular support in China for Ukraine while the Chinese government has mostly been silent on the issue. It notably has not supported Russia.

Turkey is another imperialistic country which hates both the US and Russia, although it is much harder to guess which country Turkey hates more than it is to guess which country China hates more. Personally, I believe Turkey's decision on who to side with will ultimately be determined by the actions of its neighbors. Many of Turkey's neighbors are either anti-US, pro-Russia, or both. Then there are the cases of Greece and Bulgaria (and perhaps Romania), which are members of NATO but have populations who are generally pro-Russia. Based on that information, if enough of Turkey's neighbors side with Russia, then Turkey will side with the US. But if that doesn't happen, then there's a 50/50 chance Turkey pulls out of NATO and sides with Russia.

Turkey doesn't hate the US but it does hate Russia. And Turkey knows that it fought Russia for a long time and lost the majority of those wars. Few of Turkey's neighbors are anti-US and fewer are pro-Russia. Mostly there is ambivalence and a desire to stay out of the way. Greece, Bulgaria and Romania are NOT pro-Russia. They may be somewhat less anti-Russia than others, but they do not support Putin. The latter two in particular remember what it was like to be under the Russian boot and have no desire to return. Turkey is not going to side with Russia.

I don't know where you keep getting this stuff. It's not just wrong, it doesn't make sense.

[new guy]

The best, most accurate, and to the point analysis of the issue in Ukraine. Most of you won't watch, and some of you will watch and deny the overall premise.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/U7wAdvOUtH0f/

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/the-crisis ... t-germany/

tglee knows his stuff, he sees truth where he can find it, and shares it

If his source is James Corbett, then thomasglee is clueless.

[new guy]

Still here, and still maintain that opinion.

It must be nice to live on your planet.

I'm not convinced Putin had any intention to invade Ukraine until Biden (and to a lesser extent Zelensky) forced his hand.

And this comment sums you up perfectly.

[new guy]

Anyone could have, pre WW2, read Mein Kampf and known what Hitler was going to do. He wrote it all down in his book.

Putin's statements regarding the breakup of the USSR and regarding Ukraine being "Russian" have been made for years. He has publicly stated this stuff.

I'm well aware that Putin has an imperial master plan. He's basically using Dugin's "Foundations of Geopolitics" as a playbook, after all. But Putin is no Hitler. Putin may talk about building an empire, but he doesn't place emphasis on building it all by force like Hitler did. In that regard, Xi is closer to Hitler than Putin is.

I swear, you get dumber by the post. Putin has used force in Chechnya, Georgia, the streets of London (to poison his enemies), and Ukraine.

You will make great cannon fodder. For the Russians.

[Cool Breeze]

Anyone could have, pre WW2, read Mein Kampf and known what Hitler was going to do. He wrote it all down in his book.

Putin's statements regarding the breakup of the USSR and regarding Ukraine being "Russian" have been made for years. He has publicly stated this stuff.

I'm well aware that Putin has an imperial master plan. He's basically using Dugin's "Foundations of Geopolitics" as a playbook, after all. But Putin is no Hitler. Putin may talk about building an empire, but he doesn't place emphasis on building it all by force like Hitler did. In that regard, Xi is closer to Hitler than Putin is.

I swear, you get dumber by the post. Putin has used force in Chechnya, Georgia, the streets of London (to poison his enemies), and Ukraine.

You will make great cannon fodder. For the Russians.

And so has the USA, and so have the Chinese. Big deal.

[utahbob]

Here is a brief in a military style from a former intelligence type that is a few hours old: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xuwr3EkUkPw
A brief for the US Army Generals at Fort Benning Maneuver Warfighter Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nKvym5jmj8