Nuclear War

[Guest]

I just read that the U.S. has successfully tested a hypersonic missile made by Lockheed Martin.
I think a fleet of these need to be deployed in staggered orbits such that the appropriate one can be brought into the atmosphere and strike any target on earth within minutes or seconds.

I know that there is a treaty banning the staging of nuclear weapons in orbit. I think that's a good idea. Remember that anything we do, the bad guys can do too, and having stuff staged in space would be rather dangerous for everyone.

What would it take for you to say the bad guys are us? A half dead president? Khazars running all the institutions as dual citizens? A degraded country that hates Christianity and sanity? At what point do you call a spade a spade, Navi?

If Marie Le Pen wins the French Election, France will descend into civil war. More civil wars will follow.

[John]

** 07-Apr-2022 World View: France civil war

> If Marie Le Pen wins the French Election, France will descend into
> civil war. More civil wars will follow.

Is this a personal rant, or do you have an actual reason
for believing this?

[spottybrowncow]

I just read that the U.S. has successfully tested a hypersonic missile made by Lockheed Martin.
I think a fleet of these need to be deployed in staggered orbits such that the appropriate one can be brought into the atmosphere and strike any target on earth within minutes or seconds.

I know that there is a treaty banning the staging of nuclear weapons in orbit. I think that's a good idea. Remember that anything we do, the bad guys can do too, and having stuff staged in space would be rather dangerous for everyone.

I certainly share your sentiments. But if the Chinese or Russians thought that they could do this and remain undetected, does anyone really doubt that they would? Hostile countries' theoretical abilities to do terrible technological feats (such as putting nuclear bombs in space) places an incredible premium on our ability to monitor and understand any preparatory activities they may undertake. If our monitoring isn't perfect or close to it, we almost have to master the technology we don't want anyone to use, in case someone else does.

[Another guest]

Would Russia blowing up the nuclear power plants in Ukraine and poising Europe activate Article 5?

I would say yes, but I don't see this as likely given that it would effect Russia just as much.

More likely, though improbable, is the Russian use of a tac nuke in Ukraine.

If they did that, I would hope that NATO would get materially involved. But that is not guaranteed, as Ukraine has no treaty/protection guarantees at all from any outside power.

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[Navigator]

I just read that the U.S. has successfully tested a hypersonic missile made by Lockheed Martin.
I think a fleet of these need to be deployed in staggered orbits such that the appropriate one can be brought into the atmosphere and strike any target on earth within minutes or seconds.

I know that there is a treaty banning the staging of nuclear weapons in orbit. I think that's a good idea. Remember that anything we do, the bad guys can do too, and having stuff staged in space would be rather dangerous for everyone.

I certainly share your sentiments. But if the Chinese or Russians thought that they could do this and remain undetected, does anyone really doubt that they would? Hostile countries' theoretical abilities to do terrible technological feats (such as putting nuclear bombs in space) places an incredible premium on our ability to monitor and understand any preparatory activities they may undertake. If our monitoring isn't perfect or close to it, we almost have to master the technology we don't want anyone to use, in case someone else does.

You are right, and I can recall reading about both the Russians and Chinese having things in space that, by treaty, are not supposed to be there.

I think, fortunately, that most of these things are anti-satellite in nature, rather than offensive weapons, but such things also being there wouldn't surprise me.

Unfortunately, if we followed suit, it would just accelerate the amount of weaponry in space, which would not be good. A more prudent defense would be a fast reaction space force to take out what is up there (without damaging our stuff). This would be manned or remotely controlled "capture" vehicles.

Explosions in space would result in massive debris that would take out almost everything (as per that Sandra Bullock movie), and that would hurt us far more than the Russians/Chinese, as we are much more satellite dependent (comms and especially GPS).

[Guest]

I know that there is a treaty banning the staging of nuclear weapons in orbit. I think that's a good idea. Remember that anything we do, the bad guys can do too, and having stuff staged in space would be rather dangerous for everyone.

What would it take for you to say the bad guys are us? A half dead president? Khazars running all the institutions as dual citizens? A degraded country that hates Christianity and sanity? At what point do you call a spade a spade, Navi?

If Marie Le Pen wins the French Election, France will descend into civil war. More civil wars will follow.

Marie Le Pen is open-faced, attractive, has a sense of humour, is realistic, does not want France to become any more islamized but remain European. She is the best option for France and Europe. Sadly, the French electorate will be swayed by the media, the French version of project fear, and will bottle it and vote again for the globalist-approved Macron, although they know he is useless.

[Guest]

** 07-Apr-2022 World View: France civil war

> If Marie Le Pen wins the French Election, France will descend into
> civil war. More civil wars will follow.

Is this a personal rant, or do you have an actual reason
for believing this?

Financial Times calls Le Pen a 'Putin' trojan horse.

Le Pen has vowed to withdraw France from Nato’s military structure, lift French sanctions on Russia and urge Ukraine to accept Russia’s terms.

"Even if Le Pen loses (marginally more likely) nearly half of France wld've endorsed a homegrown neo-fascist in the midst of a titanic struggle with the world's leading one. Either way, the next 2 weeks will be fateful."

Le Pen has vowed to withdraw France from Nato’s military structure, lift French sanctions on Russia and urge Ukraine to accept Russia’s terms.

[J Hughes]

** 07-Apr-2022 World View: France civil war

> If Marie Le Pen wins the French Election, France will descend into
> civil war. More civil wars will follow.

Is this a personal rant, or do you have an actual reason
for believing this?

Financial Times calls Le Pen a 'Putin' trojan horse.

Le Pen has vowed to withdraw France from Nato’s military structure, lift French sanctions on Russia and urge Ukraine to accept Russia’s terms.

"Even if Le Pen loses (marginally more likely) nearly half of France wld've endorsed a homegrown neo-fascist in the midst of a titanic struggle with the world's leading one. Either way, the next 2 weeks will be fateful."

Le Pen has vowed to withdraw France from Nato’s military structure, lift French sanctions on Russia and urge Ukraine to accept Russia’s terms.

La politique de Marine Le Pen est maintenant 'le Gaullisme de gauche'. Chapeau Marine.

[tim]

https://jrnyquist.blog/2022/04/12/civil ... ett-moore/

Even if 100 metropolitan areas are destroyed, there would be more wealth in this country than there is in all of Russia today and more skills than were available to that country in the forties.”

HERMAN KAHN, ON THERMONUCLEAR WAR

Discomfort over the idea of surviving a nuclear calamity didn’t stop with Kahn. When President Ronald Reagan pushed Congress for minor civil defense preparations in the early 1980s, costing a mere $4.2 billion, the left engaged in a merciless campaign of ridicule. Time Magazine mocked Reagan with the headline, “Dig a Hole: Reagan Administration Civil Defense.”[ii] According to Time Reagan’s ideas were “starkly irrational.” Inexpensive life-saving measures, such as digging a hole from which to escape fallout, was derided by the mainstream media until Congress dropped the whole thing. The main objection to civil defense was that such measures would increase the danger of war.

Meanwhile, Russia and China expended vast sums on civil defense preparations, with underground blast and fallout shelters in Russia’s cities – including underground cities in the Ural Mountains. It is curious that Americans never thought of making similar preparations. In fact, America has taken no defensive measures in the event deterrence fails. We have not even prepared for an Electromagnetic Pulse attack. Once again, consumer society is not concerned with surviving a future calamity or war. We are only concerned with living well in the present.

[Tom Mazanec]

J Hughes' comment translated:
Marine Le Pen's policy is now 'Left Gaullism'. Navy hat.