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[Xeraphim1]

It doesn't matter what we think of Russia's actions here, the truth is that they were provoked by the US and NATO.

And there you go with the propaganda yet again. NATO did not "provoke" Russia. Russia is the country that decided to invade its neighbors and steal their territory. To try to place the blame for that on anyone other that Russia is disingenuous at best and trolling at worst.

[spottybrowncow]

It doesn't matter what we think of Russia's actions here, the truth is that they were provoked by the US and NATO.

Before the war, Russia knew full well that no matter how "Westernized and happy" its smaller neighbors became, no matter how many NATO weapons were close to its borders, no country was ever going to physically invade Russia (like Russia did Ukraine).
What scared them was that with Western democracy right up to their borders and very visible, many of its own people would want the same for themselves, and potentially start rallying against the regime to try and get it. That hardly counts as provocation, that's just people freely choosing what kind of government they want. Same with Hong Kong and Taiwan (and potentially S. Korea), their only "provocation" is existing free and happy, while being so physically close to China.

[DaKardii]

I know this poll is nearly three years old, but it’s still damning even today.

News: If North Korea and Japan Went to War, More South Koreans Would Back Kim Jong Un, Poll Shows

https://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-ja ... 0235?amp=1

[Tom Mazanec]

Germany Will Not Supply Fuchs APC to Ukraine: Became Known Why
ukr.defense.news@gmail.com
July 7, 2022
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_te ... -3499.html

Reuters
Russia threatens broad Ukraine offensive as U.S. presses China over war stance
Pavel Polityuk
Sat, July 9, 2022 at 12:38 AM·4 min read
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-pleads-w ... 37619.html

Ukrainian governor: Russia raising ‘true hell’ in the east
By MARIA GRAZIA MURRU
yesterday
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... fee134c771

Russia is bringing more reserve forces close to Ukraine; Moscow official jailed for anti-war comment
PUBLISHED SAT, JUL 9 20229:23 AM EDTUPDATED SAT, JUL 9 20229:45 AM EDT
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/09/russia- ... -says.html

U.S. Says Russia’s Prized Kerch Bridge Is A Fair Target For Ukrainian Forces
The $3.5B bridge Russia built to connect with Crimea is a major strategic and economic asset that Moscow seems very concerned with protecting.
BY
EMMA HELFRICH
JUL 8, 2022 9:05 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/u ... ian-forces

[jldavid47]

You guys lack all sorts very important considerations in this and for pure propaganda, and russian hatred, which is Bizarre when you look at the rulers of the West, who are absolute filth and totally indifferent to others. By the way, they have WAY more death on their hands than Mr. Putin has, and it's not even close.

Your head is so far up Putin's ass that I'm surprised you can even see your keyboard to type.

Please tell me how the illegal NATO coup, Maidan Massacre, violation of the Minsk Accords/Agreements, among many other things (NATO/US biolabs in east ukraine, strikes on eastern Ukraine civilians, etc) didn't provoke the Russian invasion?

Do you really think there's a moral equivalency here? The Maiden "Massacre" lasted 1 week, ended in the ouster of Putin's puppet and led to the deaths of a couple hundred people. Was NATO involved? Maybe. So what? If this "provoked" Russia, why did it take them EIGHT YEARS to respond by invading Ukraine?

Russia, on the other hand, indiscriminately bombs apartment buildings, hospitals, schools and anything else they can find that has civilians in it killing tens of thousands of people who were doing nothing other than minding their own business. They rape Ukranian women as if they are the spoils of war. They illegally annexed Crimea and are refusing to allow grain to leave Ukraine which will result in millions of people in poor nations to die of starvation. But, sure, the West is evil and Putin is just like us defending poor Mother Russia.

My original assessment of the relative positioning of your cranium and Putin's posterior remains correct. I expect another lame retort from the troll.

[thomasglee]

I know this poll is nearly three years old, but it’s still damning even today.

News: If North Korea and Japan Went to War, More South Koreans Would Back Kim Jong Un, Poll Shows

https://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-ja ... 0235?amp=1

I've said many times on this site that we should not be surprised when Korea sides with China in war with the USA (which would also include Japan).

[Cool Breeze]

Your head is so far up Putin's ass that I'm surprised you can even see your keyboard to type.

Please tell me how the illegal NATO coup, Maidan Massacre, violation of the Minsk Accords/Agreements, among many other things (NATO/US biolabs in east ukraine, strikes on eastern Ukraine civilians, etc) didn't provoke the Russian invasion?

Do you really think there's a moral equivalency here? The Maiden "Massacre" lasted 1 week, ended in the ouster of Putin's puppet and led to the deaths of a couple hundred people. Was NATO involved? Maybe. So what? If this "provoked" Russia, why did it take them EIGHT YEARS to respond by invading Ukraine?

Russia, on the other hand, indiscriminately bombs apartment buildings, hospitals, schools and anything else they can find that has civilians in it killing tens of thousands of people who were doing nothing other than minding their own business. They rape Ukranian women as if they are the spoils of war. They illegally annexed Crimea and are refusing to allow grain to leave Ukraine which will result in millions of people in poor nations to die of starvation. But, sure, the West is evil and Putin is just like us defending poor Mother Russia.

My original assessment of the relative positioning of your cranium and Putin's posterior remains correct. I expect another lame retort from the troll.

I love how it's always a puppet if you are pro US/NATO and then when Zelensky gets in (with his billions and mansions in the west and Panama papers) he's somehow "legit." None of these lies are fooling anybody. You all are so disingenuous. So the US and NATO did nothing to provoke Russia? It's laughable and just devoid of all facts. John Mearsheimer, I bet, is a "Russian troll" too, right? Do you all want to disregard the facts entirely? Notice that I never call you names like troll, but you do the equivalent of what you claim.

[FullMoon]

Please tell me how the illegal NATO coup, Maidan Massacre, violation of the Minsk Accords/Agreements, among many other things (NATO/US biolabs in east ukraine, strikes on eastern Ukraine civilians, etc) didn't provoke the Russian invasion?

Do you really think there's a moral equivalency here? The Maiden "Massacre" lasted 1 week, ended in the ouster of Putin's puppet and led to the deaths of a couple hundred people. Was NATO involved? Maybe. So what? If this "provoked" Russia, why did it take them EIGHT YEARS to respond by invading Ukraine?

Russia, on the other hand, indiscriminately bombs apartment buildings, hospitals, schools and anything else they can find that has civilians in it killing tens of thousands of people who were doing nothing other than minding their own business. They rape Ukranian women as if they are the spoils of war. They illegally annexed Crimea and are refusing to allow grain to leave Ukraine which will result in millions of people in poor nations to die of starvation. But, sure, the West is evil and Putin is just like us defending poor Mother Russia.

My original assessment of the relative positioning of your cranium and Putin's posterior remains correct. I expect another lame retort from the troll.

I love how it's always a puppet if you are pro US/NATO and then when Zelensky gets in (with his billions and mansions in the west and Panama papers) he's somehow "legit." None of these lies are fooling anybody. You all are so disingenuous. So the US and NATO did nothing to provoke Russia? It's laughable and just devoid of all facts. John Mearsheimer, I bet, is a "Russian troll" too, right? Do you all want to disregard the facts entirely? Notice that I never call you names like troll, but you do the equivalent of what you claim.

Nobody denies some level of provocation, but so what? It was minor compared to the overreaction we've seen. They've been poking each other for what, 75 years? If anything could be learned from generational theory it's that what was once just part of the game gets leveled up to existencial level feelings. Doesn't anyone realize we're closer to the brink than Cuba 62'? Shouldn't it be our top priority to deescalate? No.
We're escalating.
Debating who hit whom first is minor compared to nuclear winter. Got enough food until the climate stabilizes in maybe 10 yearsor whatever long it will be as most starve.

[DT Subscriber]

Your head is so far up Putin's ass that I'm surprised you can even see your keyboard to type.

Please tell me how the illegal NATO coup, Maidan Massacre, violation of the Minsk Accords/Agreements, among many other things (NATO/US biolabs in east ukraine, strikes on eastern Ukraine civilians, etc) didn't provoke the Russian invasion?

Do you really think there's a moral equivalency here? The Maiden "Massacre" lasted 1 week, ended in the ouster of Putin's puppet and led to the deaths of a couple hundred people. Was NATO involved? Maybe. So what? If this "provoked" Russia, why did it take them EIGHT YEARS to respond by invading Ukraine?

Russia, on the other hand, indiscriminately bombs apartment buildings, hospitals, schools and anything else they can find that has civilians in it killing tens of thousands of people who were doing nothing other than minding their own business. They rape Ukranian women as if they are the spoils of war. They illegally annexed Crimea and are refusing to allow grain to leave Ukraine which will result in millions of people in poor nations to die of starvation. But, sure, the West is evil and Putin is just like us defending poor Mother Russia.

My original assessment of the relative positioning of your cranium and Putin's posterior remains correct. I expect another lame retort from the troll.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ong-range/

Russia suffers ‘wild shell hunger’ as Ukraine hits arms depots with long-range Western rockets
Vladimir Putin’s forces face ‘out of the blue’ ammunition shortages as warehouses destroyed ‘one by one’ using Himar and MLRS weapons

Russia is running short of ammunition for its armies fighting in Donbas after Ukraine hit several arms depots with new Western long-range artillery, a pro-Russia blogger has said.

The hits on at least five depots lying miles behind the frontline between Donetsk and Luhansk began on Friday and set off explosions at each site that lasted several hours.

Bloggers reported seeing fires burning for hours and Russian state media said that debris from the sites had been catapulted up to three miles away. Local authorities closed roads and evacuated civilians.

In his blog, Fighting Cat Murtz, a pro-Russia former rebel fighter, blamed Russian commanders who knew that Britain and the US were supplying Ukraine with long-range missiles but still stored ammunition within their range.

Russian air defences 'ineffective' against Himars
"Now we've lost these warehouses one by one," he wrote. "Instead, out of the blue, a wild 'shell hunger' has just been created by the enemy who has mastered new foreign artillery systems and MLRS." MLRS are British long-range artillery systems.

Fighting Cat Murtz is a supporter of the pro-Russia Donetsk People's Republic, but is scathing of the Russian military leadership. In his latest blog, he called them "vile, petty and thieving".

It ain't over till it's over...

[Guest in Seoul]

I know this poll is nearly three years old, but it’s still damning even today.

News: If North Korea and Japan Went to War, More South Koreans Would Back Kim Jong Un, Poll Shows

https://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-ja ... 0235?amp=1

I've said many times on this site that we should not be surprised when Korea sides with China in war with the USA (which would also include Japan).

More South Koreans Would Back Kim Jong Un, Poll Shows
BY TOM O'CONNOR ON 11/06/19 AT 5:36 PM EST

An article from 2019.

...a new poll by a state-sponsored think tank in Seoul showed.

The parameters of this survey are purely hypothetical and fantastical.

The source is important.

In 2019, South Korea was ruled by a radical leftist (President Moon) who had de-mined parts of the DMZ and been completely bamboozled by the communist leadership of North Korea. South Korean politics are as toxic and dirty as America's. A 'poll' conducted by a pro-leftist think tank means nothing. The attitude among South Koreans have never been this crazy.

As someone raised in South Korea and who still lives here,I find it impossible to believe that South Koreans would join the North in a war on Japan. Life does not exist in a vacuum. South Koreans are well aware of the situation they face. While there are some nutty people here, like there are in America (for example, the people on this website who support Russia like Cool Breeze, Dakardii, and thomas), they are marginal and do not reflect the common belief here.

I am not surprised that Dakardii would cherry pick an article from several years ago with a sensationalist headline. Any reading of the news article easily determines it to be twisted out of sorts.

South Korea WILL NOT betray its Western allies. It would mean enslavement by China and the erasure of Korean ethnicity in Asia.

An embittered thomasglee still continues to spread his anti-Korean views on this website, and I'm sure many others.