Polyticks: Bob Butler's Perspective

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Bob Butler, just a note that I appreciate your posts. You, Navigator, John, Utah Bob when he shows up…that’s about it. Makes scrolling this site quite rapid.

typical lib--ignoring the opinions you dislike. You wish you could ban us all like you have off of most social media.

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Bob Butler, just a note that I appreciate your posts. You, Navigator, John, Utah Bob when he shows up…that’s about it. Makes scrolling this site quite rapid.

Appreciated. A respectable list.

The left always hates the most competent people. That's the point of the power struggle.

I would say you speak of what you deliberately refuse to know. Personally, I dislike criminality, lying for power and profit, putting monetary and health priority over human lives, prejudice, religious fanatics, autocrats and those who would abandon containment.

Hate? Part of the problem. It is problematic if one sees flaws, habitually fights change and hates those who want change.

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Bob Butler, just a note that I appreciate your posts. You, Navigator, John, Utah Bob when he shows up…that’s about it. Makes scrolling this site quite rapid.

Appreciated. A respectable list.

The left always hates the most competent people. That's the point of the power struggle.

I would say you speak of what you deliberately refuse to know. Personally, I dislike criminality, lying for power and profit, putting monetary and health priority over human lives, prejudice, religious fanatics, autocrats and those who would abandon containment.

Hate? Part of the problem. It is problematic if one sees flaws, habitually fights change and hates those who want change.

I see hate spewing out of the Democratic Party every day.

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Bob Butler, just a note that I appreciate your posts. You, Navigator, John, Utah Bob when he shows up…that’s about it. Makes scrolling this site quite rapid.

"Stay off their lawn too!" John, you are the only poster worth reading now, what a strange collective has gathered at this formerly interesting site. And now you've embraced rap!

Good to know the site has improved for you of late.

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Bob Butler, just a note that I appreciate your posts. You, Navigator, John, Utah Bob when he shows up…that’s about it. Makes scrolling this site quite rapid.

It would be nice to see more from the mentioned individuals, but I scroll through Bob's. Interjecting veiled references of group hate and the continued promotion of social division has become the hallmark of bigoted leftists, whilst claiming to be the good guys. His posts are muddled and usually illogical but follow from many erroneous assumptions taken as inviolable truths by the likes of his kind. Liberalism is degenerating rapidly and many refuse to believe out of fear and ignorance.

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Bob Butler, just a note that I appreciate your posts. You, Navigator, John, Utah Bob when he shows up…that’s about it. Makes scrolling this site quite rapid.

It would be nice to see more from the mentioned individuals, but I scroll through Bob's. Interjecting veiled references of group hate and the continued promotion of social division has become the hallmark of bigoted leftists, whilst claiming to be the good guys. His posts are muddled and usually illogical but follow from many erroneous assumptions taken as inviolable truths by the likes of his kind. Liberalism is degenerating rapidly and many refuse to believe out of fear and ignorance.

This to me is a refusal to listen to people who disagree with you. If you refuse to listen, how would you expect to get anywhere?

Again, it is more a dislike of a policy than hatred, at least on my part. This does not mean other progressives don’t hate. In a recent post, I listed numerous policies I distrust. Let’s expand a bit a few of them.

I believe in rule of law, whether it is Trump’s legal woes or someone supporting a drug habit. This used to be a Republican thing. Lately, not so much. Does anyone here like criminality? Do you hate the FBI or DoJ because they enforce the law? Can you see why a liberal supports the law, sees himself a good guy in supporting it, and where the line defining dislike can go over to a hatred of criminals?

Similarly, some devout religious types want the government to enforce religious doctrines, to refuse advances in technology, even though they oppose the will of the majority of the people. They are borderline on creating an official religion. I am seeing no one who argues that this is a good thing. They remain silent. They walk away from the issue.

Similarly, they walk away from a Covid policy that kills in the name of economics. They walk away from prejudice. I listed a bunch of issues where a lot of people will not listen to air argue against the alternative position. Can you conceive that the progressives do not consider themselves the good guys when the other guys cannot defend their position? Instead of reasonable arguments, they get accusations of being bigoted and hateful? For supporting the law? For disliking prejudice?

Who is showing fear and practicing deliberate ignorance?

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BB, can you defend your position allowing mothers to have their babies killed in the first nine months of life? How about the first two years? The first five?

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BB, can you defend your position allowing mothers to have their babies killed in the first nine months of life? How about the first two years? The first five?

Yes, easily. You draw the line at killing sentient beings. No one can possibly claim a fetus that young is sentient. Those other positions are created by you, and are absurd.

Can you defend the actual position common to the evangelicals, catholics and GOP?

[Clarkmod]

Bob Butler, just a note that I appreciate your posts. You, Navigator, John, Utah Bob when he shows up…that’s about it. Makes scrolling this site quite rapid.

It would be nice to see more from the mentioned individuals, but I scroll through Bob's. Interjecting veiled references of group hate and the continued promotion of social division has become the hallmark of bigoted leftists, whilst claiming to be the good guys. His posts are muddled and usually illogical but follow from many erroneous assumptions taken as inviolable truths by the likes of his kind. Liberalism is degenerating rapidly and many refuse to believe out of fear and ignorance.

He can't even discern that people listen to others, but when they realize your ideas are garbage, they rightly throw them in the waste basket. What's worse, he is mad at you for doing that to his dung hill ideas and positions on life. That's why I have called him the accuser, because he demonstrates the traits of his Father, the real divider/accuser/slanderer.

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BB, can you defend your position allowing mothers to have their babies killed in the first nine months of life? How about the first two years? The first five?

Yes, easily. You draw the line at killing sentient beings. No one can possibly claim a fetus that young is sentient. Those other positions are created by you, and are absurd.

Can you defend the actual position common to the evangelicals, catholics and GOP?

The Catholic position can be found in Gaudium et Spes

https://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_cou ... es_en.html

"Whatever is opposed to life itself, such as any type of murder, genocide, abortion, euthanasia, or wilful self-destruction, whatever violates the integrity of the human person, such as mutilation, torments inflicted on body or mind, attempts to coerce the will itself; whatever insults human dignity, such as subhuman living conditions, arbitrary imprisonment, deportation, slavery, prostitution, the selling of women and children; as well as disgraceful working conditions, where people are treated as mere instruments of gain rather than as free and responsible persons; all these things and others like them are infamies indeed. They poison human society, and they do more harm to those who practise them than to those who suffer from the injury. Moreover, they are a supreme dishonour to the Creator"

This was reemphasized in Evangelium Vitae:

https://www.vatican.va/content/john-pau ... vitae.html

22. Consequently, when the sense of God is lost, the sense of man is also threatened and poisoned, as the Second Vatican Council concisely states: "Without the Creator the creature would disappear ... But when God is forgotten the creature itself grows unintelligible".17 Man is no longer able to see himself as "mysteriously different" from other earthly creatures; he regards himself merely as one more living being, as an organism which, at most, has reached a very high stage of perfection. Enclosed in the narrow horizon of his physical nature, he is somehow reduced to being "a thing", and no longer grasps the "transcendent" character of his "existence as man". He no longer considers life as a splendid gift of God, something "sacred" entrusted to his responsibility and thus also to his loving care and "veneration". Life itself becomes a mere "thing", which man claims as his exclusive property, completely subject to his control and manipulation.

Thus, in relation to life at birth or at death, man is no longer capable of posing the question of the truest meaning of his own existence, nor can he assimilate with genuine freedom these crucial moments of his own history. He is concerned only with "doing", and, using all kinds of technology, he busies himself with programming, controlling and dominating birth and death. Birth and death, instead of being primary experiences demanding to be "lived", become things to be merely "possessed" or "rejected".

The Church apples the same thinking to execution, euthanasia and suicide. Murder is murder. The victim being ten weeks old or ten minutes old or ten years old doesn't make a difference.