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New FAA cardiac health rules not prompted by COVID-19 shots
By MELISSA GOLDIN
January 20, 2023
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-f ... 3861551871

Antivaxxers misuse the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database to demonize COVID-19 vaccines
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/antiva ... -vaccines/
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https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/excl ... icare-data
Exclusive: What the Medicare data from Connecticut tells us

I was able to obtain death/vax records for people who died in Connecticut. The data provided new insights for how the vaccines kill people of different ages. I was surprised.
There was NO spike in deaths in the first 30 days after the vaccine was given for any age group. That was the biggest surprise to me. So the spike in deaths post-vaccine administration as reported in VAERS is simply due to the time proximity making it more likely that the event is recognized and reported. It is a reporting artifact. Note that the vaccine is killing people on Day 0, but your risk of death is relatively uniformly elevated over a long period of time.

It showed that those older than 65 have a fairly even death rate from the vaccine, and the death rate appears to increase over time (possibly due to additional doses but this was too hard to tell). The death rate seems to peak at a year after the shot, and then goes down, but is still elevated from normal. Can’t tell for how long that lasts. It could be a lifetime.

Younger people tended to die earlier after getting the shots. Your risk goes up and peaks right after 6 months from the shot, then goes back down over time to be normal (or somewhat above normal; we lack the data to tell this) after around 2 years.

Because we are looking at all-cause deaths and because the excess deaths caused by the vaccine are estimated to be on the order of 10% of the baseline deaths, it’s not easy to clearly isolate the signal from the noise. This is easier to see for younger people, but since this is a Medicare database, there aren’t a lot of younger people.
This shows that for older people primarily 65 and older, the excess deaths are spread out over time and seem to peak at about the 1 year mark.
Here are the days you lived after getting shot #2 (for those who died before Jan 1, 2023). Note how it peaks around the 1 year mark, then falls. This is for all ages. So after shot #2 we see the same peak as we did after shot #1. So the vaccine is elevating your risk over a long period of time.
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Tom Mazanec wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:34 am
New FAA cardiac health rules not prompted by COVID-19 shots
By MELISSA GOLDIN
January 20, 2023
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-f ... 3861551871
The AP is a puppet of the CCP as I posted above.
Tom Mazanec wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:34 am
Antivaxxers misuse the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database to demonize COVID-19 vaccines
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/antiva ... -vaccines/
Ownership
SBM is entirely owned and operated by the New England Skeptical Society, a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting science and critical thinking. The NESS does not have any corporate or government sponsorship. It is entirely funded by individual donations. The NESS also co-organizes and operates (with the New York City Skeptics) a yearly science conference, the Northeast Conference on Science and Skepticism (NECSS) which prominently features SBM content. Admission prices and honoraria are set so that the conference is generally a break-even event.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Engla ... al_Society
The New England Skeptical Society (NESS) has hosted local lectures on skeptical topics and conducted investigations into local paranormal claims[7] such as Satanism, homeopathy, dowsing, cults and UFOs.
Novella states that he started Neurologica and Science-Based Medicine blogs just after the Podcast started to take off after the first year. His reasoning was that he really enjoyed podcasting, but "there were certain advantages to the written form." He feels that "both podcasting and blogging are both powerful ways to communicating science and skepticism." Oftentimes he will first write the blog, and then will talk about it on the podcast after getting feedback from the blog readers. Blogging is also a way of "crowd-sourcing" as readers may point him to studies and other articles that he wasn't aware of before.[19]

NeuroLogica Blog "is a daily blog authored by NESS president, Steven Novella, covering science, skepticism, neuroscience, and critical thinking."[21]

NESS owns and operates Science-Based Medicine (SBM), a blog dedicated to issues of medicine and science. SBM features health care experts in a variety of fields. Starting in 2015, SBM became a sponsor of NECSS. Editors have included Steven Novella, David Gorski, Kimball Atwood, Mark Crislip, Harriet Hall and Paul Ingraham.[22]
One of the editors of SBM, Harriet Hall, seems to have been wrong about the injections.

https://truthpress.com/news/dr-harriet- ... her-sleep/
Dr. Harriet “The SkepDoc” Hall, an author of a science medicine blog slamming the anti-vaxxers and critic of alternative medicine, died suddenly in her sleep last week.
“This is Kirk Hall, Harriet’s husband. I know Harriet’s work was followed and admired by many of you. It is with great sadness that I must tell you my beloved wife passed away quietly and unexpectedly in her sleep last night,” Harriet’s husband wrote on Facebook.
After her passing, many speculated that the Covid vaccination played a role in her sudden death.

Back in 2021, Dr. Hall announced that she received her third dose of the Pfizer COVID vaccine.
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21287605 ... death/amp/
REST IN PEACE Sunderland pay tribute to fan and British Army captain Chris Collier after shock death leaving behind fiancee and kids
It is understood he died in his 40s from a cardiac arrest in the early hours of Sunday morning.
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https://sports.yahoo.com/jessica-pegula ... 36045.html
Jessica Pegula opens up about her mom, Bills and Sabres co-owner Kim Pegula's cardiac arrest
Pegula was moved to share her mom's story after Damar Hamlin had a cardiac arrest during a game
But it was only until Jessica revealed in a story for The Players' Tribune on Tuesday that Kim had also gone into cardiac arrest in June.
Fast-forward again to Jan. 2 — the day Hamlin collapsed on the field during the game against the Cincinnati Bengals. Jessica wrote that her "stomach sunk because it felt like the exact same thing all over again" and she worried she would have a panic attack before her doubles match in Australia.
Now, Jessica says her mother is still recovering well but dealing with "significant expressive aphasia and significant memory issues" — meaning Kim partially lost her ability to communicate. Jessica wrote that her mother "can read, write, and understand pretty well, but she has trouble finding the words to respond."

"It is hard to deal with and it takes a lot of patience to communicate with her, but I thank God every day that we can still communicate with her at all," Jessica added. "The doctors continue to be blown away by her recovery, considering where she started, and her determination is the driving force of that."

Though Jessica admits her mother's recovery "is still unknown" she expressed gratitude toward everyone who helped her through this experience along the way.
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Wednesday, February 8th, 2023.

I spoke to an expert on MRNA vaccines, and he told me an interesting theory about what's going on that is potentially causing the widely reported heart problems.

The problem so far is that there have been no double blind studies to determine whether the heart problems are caused by the vaccine, or by the covid-19 virus itself, or by coincidence.

so far, what we believe we know, is that the heart problems are being caused by the Covid spike protein, ki reaching into the heart. it could get there either because of the virus itself, or because of the vaccine injection.

what he said is that the vaccine is injected into the muscle, and it's a matter of luck if the vaccine enters the network of capillaries. if it doesn't, then there's no danger of heart problems. but if it does, then the spike protein could travel to the heart and cause problems. he said that there is no way that even a skilled person conducting the injection could avoid injecting into the capillary. it's simply a matter of luck.

once again, he emphasized that this is just a hypothesis that needs to be verified by double blind studies, and years of research.

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John wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 4:08 pm
what he said is that the vaccine is injected into the muscle, and it's a matter of luck if the vaccine enters the network of capillaries. if it doesn't, then there's no danger of heart problems. but if it does, then the spike protein could travel to the heart and cause problems. he said that there is no way that even a skilled person conducting the injection could avoid injecting into the capillary. it's simply a matter of luck.
He's leaving out logic (due to hope) and the known effects and distribution, as well as physiology and purpose of the mRNA technology/experiment. The spike protein from a wild type virus will be produced in low quantities, by definition. At a minimum, this quantity is low compared to what the "vaccine" does *-* which is direct your body to make the spike in massive quantities for unknown duration.

Your "expert" is playing stupid. And knowingly or not, playing you. Anyone can verify what I have said, it's literally the entire point and purpose of the mRNA injection. Not luck, whatsoever.

As a further proof, we absolutely can study and know already how many of the injected got myocarditis, and how many of the unjabbed did. That's the whole point of VAERS, among other things. Luckily in the USA, we had enough sensible people to not get steamrolled so they can actually control for the effects of the "vaccine". In other countries, it's amazing how convenient how they would suddenly "not be able to study it due to no control group" = more proof of the scam and the rushed treatment for billions of dollars and for millions dying.

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