Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

[Higgenbotham]

Mad Max is an optimistic scenario; The Road is the worst. I fear we are heading for the latter.

I hadn't heard of these movies.

One thing I thought about when writing my previous post is what happens if/when a gang gets out to a state like Nebraska or North Dakota and starts to run out of fuel. A violent clash is inevitable.

Plot

Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow. Reader's discretion advised.

In the original Mad Max (no backstory was offered in that movie), uprisings and social disorder due to energy shortages proved to destabilize the country, marauding biker gangs began to terrorize the townspeople in the Outback. The crumbling remnants of the government created a tiny, underfunded group of special highway patrol officers in an attempt to restore some form of order in the outback.

By contrast, Mad Max 2 features a much more pronounced breakdown of civilization. In the prologue, a narrator informs us that the world has "crumbled and...the cities have exploded"; and that "two mighty warrior tribes" had gone to war over "oil" or Juice-the slang term for oil, in the Mad Max Trilogy. Life has become a "whirlwind of looting and a firestorm of fear, in which 'men began to feed on men.'" Max Rockatansky, the former police officer who sought vengeance against the gang that in the first film had killed his family, has now become "a burnt out, desolate" shell of a man. Clad in his torn and dirty leather police uniform, Max roves the desert in a scarred, black, supercharged V-8 Pursuit Special, scavenging for food and especially petrol, which has become a precious commodity. He also has a pet dog (a blue heeler), who has been his only companion, and a rare functioning firearm — a sawed-off shotgun — the ammunition for which is also scarce.

The film begins as Max clashes with a team of marauders, led by biker warrior Wez (Vernon Wells). After driving off the gang, Max collects the gasoline from one of their wrecked vehicles and continues on. As Max continues to comb the desert wastelands, he comes upon a seemingly abandoned autogyro and investigates. The autogyro's pilot (Bruce Spence) has in fact set a trap with a poisonous snake; but Max and his dog outwit and overpower the Gyro Captain. To stay alive, the pilot tells Max about a small working Oil Refinery nearby in the wasteland.

Encamped on a cliff overlooking the Oil Refinery, Max watches as a gang of marauders piloting a motley collection of cars and motorbikes besiege the compound. They are led by the grim, charismatic warrior called "Lord Humungus" (Kjell Nilsson) — a large, muscular man with a hockey mask over his disfigured face, who commands a vicious, rag-tag band of biker-berserkers. Humungus' speeches to the settlers exhorting them to surrender are articulate and convincing; he uses his eloquence as psychological warfare, and a number of the settlers begin to believe his seemingly peaceful offers.

The next morning four settlers' vehicles roar out of the refinery. The marauders chase them down and kill or capture their people. After the Gyro Captain and Max witness this brutal treatment, Max goes down to the wrecked vehicles and slays one biker. A settler is still clinging to life, and Max strikes a bargain with the man: he will return the critically-wounded man to the refinery compound in exchange for petrol. However, the deal falls through when the man dies following Max's entry into the compound. He is accepted without condition, though, by the "Feral Kid" who wields a sharp-edged steel boomerang.

The marauders return and Lord Humungus uses a public address system to offer the settlers and their leader Papagallo (Michael Preston) safe passage out of the wastelands if they leave him the facility and fuel reserves. Max has an alternative bargain for Papagallo: he will retrieve the abandoned semi-truck he came across earlier in return for petrol and his freedom. This vehicle would be sufficient to haul their tanker-load of fuel out of the wastelands. The besieged settlers accept Max's proposal, but retain his car. Max sneaks out of the compound at night, carrying fuel for the battered truck and the autogyro.

With air support provided by the Gyro Captain, Max returns to the abandoned Mack truck and drives it back to the compound, despite the efforts of the Humungus and his men to stop the vehicle. The settlers invite Max to escape with the group, but the psychologically-scarred Max opts to collect his petrol and leave. As Max tries to break through the siege and is chased down by Wez in Humungus's nitros oxide-equipped car, his car is wrecked and he is badly injured, and his loyal dog is killed by a crossbowman. However, by trying to tap into his fuel tanks the marauders trigger an explosive booby-trap, blowing up his car and discouraging them from searching further. The semi-conscious Max is rescued by the Gyro Captain, who flies him back to the refinery, where the settlers are making hasty preparations to leave.

Despite his injuries, Max insists on driving the freshly-repaired truck with the fuel tanker. He roars out of the compound in the now heavily-armored truck, with the feral kid hanging on for dear life on the back of the truck, several settlers in armored positions on the tanker, and Pappagallo driving a powerful escort vehicle for company, he is pursued by the wasteland warriors in their heavily modified cars and motorbikes. Over-head the Gyro Captain follows the prolonged and violent chase in his gyro-copter. One by one the settlers on the tanker are killed, as is Pappagallo. The Gyro Captain also crashes as his engine is hit by arrows from a dart gun.

Back at the refinery but intercut with the tanker pursuit, a handful of marauders seize the empty compound, and discover to their misfortune that the refinery is rigged to explode. Max and the feral kid find themselves alone against the remaining marauders, who continue their savage pursuit. Wez boards the truck and almost slays the two survivors, but a head-on collision with Humungus obliterates both villains. Max loses control of the tanker and it rolls off the side of the road.

After rescuing the feral kid from the tanker, Max discovers that its tank is filled with sand. He was unknowingly set up as a decoy to draw away the marauders while Pappagallo's tribe escaped with concealed petrol barrels. An epilogue shows the Gyro Captain taking Pappagallo's place as leader of the tribe. The narrator (now revealed as the feral kid) explains that he would follow them and in time become leader of the Great Northern Tribe himself, but he never saw Max again.

https://madmax.fandom.com/wiki/Mad_Max_2

[Guest]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO8EqMsxOiU[/youtube]

[Cool Breeze]

There won't be enough fuel and supplies to run a 3-5,000 acre farm, which is the typical size of a farm in those areas. Likewise, there won't be enough fuel and supplies for most people to get to the area where most of the red counties are, and most people will have no aspirations to go to someplace like North Dakota or Nebraska. But for those who do, there will basically be 3 types of people getting there - those who have a needed skill as the needed skill set will change, those who are able-bodied and cooperative, and those who are worthless. The first category can live in the town, the second category can work part of a large acreage farm maybe as a serf, and the third category will probably be disposed of. That's a good scenario; there are many that are worse. I don't have all the answers or even most.

When the machines fail......people will starve, and people WILL NOT be able to easily grow gardens as many propose. There won't be any garden seed because of lack of production and transportation.

Also, pharma will stop production. infection will kill more than starvation.

Mad Max is an optimistic scenario; The Road is the worst. I fear we are heading for the latter.

I remember when I was in high school in North Carolina in the 80s, there was a popular country song called 'A country boy can survive'. It was true then and will be even truer in the future.

What exactly do you think will happen?

[Higgenbotham]

One time long ago, I was criticized on the forum for quoting Lyndon LaRouche. My response to that was LaRouche was the only one comparing the current economic situation to the Fourteenth Century, which I thought was an apt comparison. Looking back at that, the criticism was that LaRouche was a cultist who often led articles with credible analysis, followed by attempts to brainwash.
viewtopic.php?p=5927#p5927

I dug the following quotes up from a google search of "the US economy is operating at a loss", which is something that's been on my mind for a long time. Though I don't think it can really be proven conclusively that it's the case, a lot of convincing qualitative arguments could be made, but I won't get into that here. These were the only pages that came up as a result of that search. The reason I quote it here is it can be seen how critical it was to the continuation of the bubble that interest rates were generally pushed lower from the 1993-4 time period, with short term rates being pinned at zero for years and years until just recently, and how critical it is that they are going up, as has been recently seen with the SVB collapse.

Also interesting from my standpoint is it was around 1993-4 that I began to sense that the US economy was in trouble, but I didn't feel the trouble would come immediately. However, from 2011 on I have felt the trouble would come immediately and all I can say to that is things can remain irrational for a very, very long time and those who point to the irrationality and say it can't continue can be wrong for a very, very long time!

In the red

Our third article compares selected parameters of finan-
cial performance with certain economic yardsticks.
It is easily shown that the only growth there has been
since the late 1970s - when Paul Volcker pushed the econo-
my below breakeven levels of functioning with his early
policy of interest rates increases - is growth of indebtedness
and speculation, as represented, in this case, by derivatives
transactions.
Financially, the U. S. economy is operating at a loss, a
loss which will increase for as long as the claims of debt and
speculation are accorded priority over economic activity as
such. But not forever, for the sources of loot available to
meet the appetite of such debt and speculation are relatively
finite. Economically, ratios of productive employment, ener-
gy use, and movement of freight, epitomize the downward
careening of productive capacity, reflected in the collapse of
family life, and the degradation of the mental and physical
capacities of the population.
As LaRouche proved in his "Ninth Forecast," there are
two ways to go, and only two. Either governments take the
lead, and declare that the present money system, and all that
hangs on it, is bankrupt, to then create a new one, which will,
in the case of the United States, provide public credit, at low
interest rates, to finance necessary works of improvement in
infrastructure and technology, through fostering productive
employment--or the whole shebang will disintegrate.

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1994 ... 941202.pdf

December 2, 1994

LaRouche also warned against the deadly illusions based
on skyrocketing stock prices and "profitable downsizings" of
major companies. "People have to understand that this is not
a stock market or cyclical business crisis, this is a systemic
crisis. What's going on? Derivatives as such are sucking the
lifeblood out of the world economy. How does this work?"
He cited the typical case of firms taken over by corporate
raiders. "They grab the company and, they do what's called
asset-stripping; and this means not paying to replace depreci-
ated equipment, shutting down entire productive sections of
the company, and selling it off as real estate assets on real
estate markets and things of that sort. So what they do, is
they take a company which is at a loss; and they will get a
one-time profit out of it -apparent profit on the books - by
destroying or collapsing part of the company and turning that
part of the company into cash....Now the markets will
perceive, through the derivatives mechanism, that this cash
has a notional capital potential of 10 to 15 to 20 times the
amount of cash flowing through....
"So you have a process in which virtually the entire econ-
omy is now operating way below breakeven; that is, if you
take all farms, all manufacturing, and so forth of the U.S.
economy, the U.S.economy is operating at a loss in physical
terms. However, a portion of the economy is rich because it
is looting, through asset-stripping, the economy. It takes
away your job, for example, and takes what was used to
employ you, sells it off at, say, 20¢ or 30¢ on the dollar; turns
that cash into an investment fund, capitalizes it, increases the
notional value of the financial markets. And all the yuppies
on Wall Street go home with an increase in salary or bonuses
or commissions or whatnot - while you starve....
"This is exactly like a cancer. The cancer sucks the
healthy parts of the body to feed the cancer; and the cancer is
growing.The cancer is prosperous, i.e., derivatives, junk
bonds, are prosperous....It's a parasite killing its host
which means that the host, if it continues, is going to die of
the cancer. And then the cancer will die too. And that's what
I mean by a systemic crisis. We have the worst financial
speculative bubble in the past 600 years; the worst bubble,
in terms of size and implications, in all known history. . ..
"So when people say, 'Yes, but when is the stock market
going to crash?' The stock market will crash when the econo-
my crashes. ... And we better stop looking and saying
everything is all right, the stock market is fine, and look
instead at the economy; because the fate of the stock market
depends upon the day that the economy stops breathing; then
the stock market will collapse. And that day is not far away."

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1993 ... orcing.pdf

December 10, 1993

[Higgenbotham]

Which reminds me, I requoted this when interest rates started to rise last year. Now that the effects are starting to be seen, it probably deserves another repeat.

Repeat from 2013.

I think that we're going to see eventually a series of bankruptcies. And I think that the rise in the interest rate is probably the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis that is going to bring down the derivatives system. There is something like a quadrillion of derivatives and most of them are interest rate derivatives. The spiking of the interest rate in the United States may set that off. And I think that what is going to happen in the world is that eventually we're going to come to a moment where there's going to be massive bankruptcies around the world and what is going to be left when the dust settles is gold and some people are going to have it and some people are not. And then the problem will be to hold onto what you've got. Because it's not going to be a very pleasant world. That's what I see coming, my friend.

--Hugo Salinas Price (transcribed from the link above)

"In 1987 Ricardo succeeded his father Hugo Salinas Price as CEO of Grupo Elektra. He is the fourth richest person in Mexico behind Carlos Slim Helu and the 34th richest person in the world with a wealth of around US $17.4 billion in 2012."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Salinas_Pliego

https://kingworldnews.com/multi-billion ... ilization/

The interview link this quote came from is now broken. The article linked to above, dated some time later, has a summary of parts of the interview.

[aeden]

All they have stated was when change from the outside is faster than the inside it's over.
They picked BLM murderers and thieves with Antifa fools. Thinking people know why the marxist will and are running out of all the above.
That will cost them indeed. The swamp water they drink from uniparty fools is just another molek sealed death cult.
The cost of trust is now the price of it. They are overpaying for Housing again as it will end badly building shit few want and more avoid since we posted wages to nominal value from fiat inclusive disease and fatal deceit.
Now the halfwits want more taxes to extract another blood bag from a terminally ill taxpayer for the useful and cheerful idiots.

The enemy advances, we retreat; the enemy camps, we harass; the enemy tires, we attack; the enemy retreats, we pursue.
Selected Military Writings of Mao Tse-tung

Read all the dusty books since they did.

The policy of hitting the enemy when he is weak, evading him when he is strong, taking the offensive when he falls back, circling around when he advances- all of this is only common sense. There is no great novelty in it, nor can the Marxist Leninist camp claim any special credit for it.

And on the other hand, few governments can stand the political, psychological, and economic stresses of guerrilla war,
no matter how strong they may be militarily. Swamp are the fools without a charter. Scoff and mock us all you wish.
You are not welcome for Tea. Blue Island Shit Holes will fail. Bish is Molek and it worships death. He will be back also.

The loss of credit and investment suffered by a country engaged in civil war is the other, far more important, aspect.
No one they cater to or even pretend to like cares for these doomed pagan child mutilators souls.

Heavier taxation causes the landlord class to exact more exorbitant rents from the peasants and increases the hatred of the
latter for the landlords.

The Antifa fools will learn as the Irish did as resources now in the billion upon billions leaves the shores as they wither
from the crushing, not learning from the wasting not learning from the tiny bubbles imploding in real time drunk on the demsheviks
lie cheat steal burn loot murder. Another year if they make it since the Beast just shit them out.
The mice logic thinking eat the turtle not thinking what cared, and what was intrinsic in value.

Because of the growth in government taxation, the rise in rent and interest demanded by the landlord
and the spread of the disasters of war, there are famine and banditry everywhere and the peasant masses and the urban poor can hardly keep alive. Guess who.
Novel.

Dear Dutch,
Globalists are going to crush the Western economy.
The farmers will have no one to sell to ands their debts will make their land forfeit.
You allowed it.

barking seals
https://www.yahoo.com/news/washingtons- ... 46106.html
"When there are shootouts, carjackings and assaults happening in front of the U.S. Capitol, White House and the homes in which officials and their staffs live,,,

Now these assholes have a problem, so it is now a body farm brain dead problem. BISH

Sweden Bans Non-Woke Funds From $90 Billion Pension Pot. Lights out kemosabe.
Kemosabe means "idiot" in Apache.
Wifes Tribe may pray for you.
Camp Kee Mo Sah Bee belonged to the father in law goes the legend.
The Wifes tribe not wiped out on the trail fled to the mountains and survived the civilized fools.
Locally the ones not deported from there ancient homes had been registered on the Detroit Parish.
We are amused you fools think about payments when you ended up dead or sold as slaves from your
local wars in the Bantu zone. Your bones reflected in the Moon Light as you were marched to the Coast
by your own.

Byzantines never woke up in time to understand what they had become. No they went to the Rus lands.
Word on the street is no one will piss on you since you are on fire.

[Guest NC]

There won't be enough fuel and supplies to run a 3-5,000 acre farm, which is the typical size of a farm in those areas. Likewise, there won't be enough fuel and supplies for most people to get to the area where most of the red counties are, and most people will have no aspirations to go to someplace like North Dakota or Nebraska. But for those who do, there will basically be 3 types of people getting there - those who have a needed skill as the needed skill set will change, those who are able-bodied and cooperative, and those who are worthless. The first category can live in the town, the second category can work part of a large acreage farm maybe as a serf, and the third category will probably be disposed of. That's a good scenario; there are many that are worse. I don't have all the answers or even most.

When the machines fail......people will starve, and people WILL NOT be able to easily grow gardens as many propose. There won't be any garden seed because of lack of production and transportation.

Also, pharma will stop production. infection will kill more than starvation.

Mad Max is an optimistic scenario; The Road is the worst. I fear we are heading for the latter.

I remember when I was in high school in North Carolina in the 80s, there was a popular country song called 'A country boy can survive'. It was true then and will be even truer in the future.

What exactly do you think will happen?

Total collapse and violent ethnic civil war. The hillbillies will survive.

I fully expect the same in Western Europe. The cities will become ash trays and the 3rd world illegals will either be killed, starve to death, or die of TB, Ebola, or sepsis.

I expect Scottish highlanders and English country folk to survive.

[aeden]

Hearty stock but pain is a lesson we learned in 5 bear markets also.
Your kind like mine got a surname during the plague years.
More than a few could care less about many capital cities now.
1628 He left and got along and survived with the Natives.
The bish marx cannibals are on the lawn in DC swamp and a F15 will not matter
to the retards in chiefdoms then. They will bitch about melting pots and the rabble and
the crayon chewers uncultured caused our problems. No one cares since local is Politics.
Pressitutes say woke does not exist today.
All we see is morons with needles on all levels. Drugs, donations, and tax blood bags
from the broken falling like Leaves. Scope and scale do matter. This will drag on for years.
Hill Billys are Potatoe Farmers. The rest are to stupid to survive the elites needs. All we hear is we need
ditch diggers. The idiot could not factor in they will put Him in it as He was to special Ed barking mad about facts
of and in the matter of it..
Let them is cake was day old bread from the French Baker's sold at a discount then. Propaganda Killed Her.
Demographics is rather destiny so we lay it on that doorstep to keep them content as they produce nothing really wanted
or needed as they are brainwashed. Will it pick up. Ah, no the numbers are firm as a no. Best guess 8 to 18 month if lucky.

KPMG cleared its audit of SVB's financials 14 days before the bank collapsed. Woke tards in real time. Irony of the obvious is painfull.
https://aim4truth.org/2022/01/26/global ... ham-burla/ A simple observation so the rabid NGO on leash and off attacks
will castigate whatever narrative is needed all over again.
Lunatics old and new are really just that. Ours are captivated for way to long as the Senate sleeps. Pity them since they will not escape
the Judgement of Hell since it is for them justly so in our redeemers Words as they afflict His sheep also now in plain sight.

[aeden]

https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/mic ... -failures/

Hopelessly corrupt cesspool shark eat fish moral hazzard and the taxpayer gets the bones up you know what.

But they know this, these are EVIL people with malicious intentions. Not just for this country, not just the world, but for everyone.
They do not care about the United States of America, Canada, the UK, or any sovereign country for that matter.
They control both parties, and march, ALWAYS towards the Left. All by design, because they know the path towards the Right will be better for the People of this Country and not them and their intent. When they fail, and they will fail, that’s where the true danger is.
America is all that is in the way for total darkness and true Hell to descend. Not fud just fact.
Guess what geniuses you did not kick in the front door as they left it open for you maniacs in plain sight.

[Tom Mazanec]

I remember when I was in high school in North Carolina in the 80s, there was a popular country song called 'A country boy can survive'. It was true then and will be even truer in the future.

That may have been true in 1980. Now I suspect even the 'country boys' are dependant on the skyscraper of cards that is our technological civilization.