Re: Cool Breeze's Topic

[Cool Breeze]

It's probably been at least 4 or 5 months since I've been on here, and the war in Ukraine has been going on for over a year. It seems the predictions of Russia's imminent demise from way back when were greatly exaggerated. Are the Ukrainian people any better off? The Russian people? The American people? No, it seems the only people that have benefitted are the politicians and members of the military-industrial complex just as I said months and months ago. Is it still worth it? Maybe we should change strategy - either pull out or declare all out war and put an end to it. America is such a great country - don't we have the power to do that? Using the Ukrainians as bloody pawns (literally) is just more evidence of who is really running our country.

BTW - Blowing up the Nordstream pipeline? Creating undue hardship for millions of citizens of allied countries? Who would do such a thing? Maybe a country in the grips of an evil power? Do you even care? Or is that just smart strategy from the goodest, kindest, bestest country the world has ever seen? Sorry, that America no longer exists. Wake up.

This is an example of emboldening the dictators of the world by parroting their talking points. It won't help reverse the long decline that we've all seen. When we act like whiney losers, they see weakness. That's why they insert they're propaganda specialists like CB to continually rehash those same points We'll be in war soon enough because in part from that very reason.
Maybe you don't like the current condition of society, but it's all going to be very much worse after collapse. Unless you're a psycho wishing for death and destruction. Or you're a Russian troll already experiencing it in your broken nation.
The majority of people in the US are still normal and confused about all the points that you mentioned. Hating the nation is for cowards and fools. Hate is for the Dark side. Your devil

Let's pick this nonsense apart. Why do JDav and CB have power? Oh wait, they don't? That's right, they just have power in eliciting silly posts like this from you, because they point out facts and proper conclusions. Our pointing out the evils of America, emboldens dictators? Sounds like the US is "emboldening" dictators to me, since we didn't do or carry out the policies, or support them. All of a sudden I, Cool Breeze, have the power to "soon get us into a war"? LOL, I wish I had that power. Similar to that, JDav's and my wishes have nothing to do with the reality (or not) of a "collapse". The US actions and surveillance state, killing and sacrificing other people's citizens (Ukraine's) for their gain, as an example, are what are causing the "collapse." Been paying attention to the spending, military and banking system, bailouts and otherwise? Or are you just a pro-American/pro-Biden/nutcase?

The majority of the people in the US are clueless. Look at Covid. They care nothing for freedom or principle. You might, but they don't. They are all hooked on the juice. Wake up. Hating the dark side is what we are doing, and you seem to be a useful idiot at this point.

[Higgenbotham]

They won't even answer this, another nail in the coffin showing how dishonest they are, and how disgusting the US and its deep state/3 letter agencies is.

This has all been seen before. Nothing new here.

The Watergate scandal, and the
revelations of intelligence abuses which followed, created
a perfect breeding ground for the spread of conspiracy
theories. Though most of the major abuses had been
ordered or authorized by successive presidents, the belief
grew that, in the words of Senator Frank Church,
chairman of the Senate Select Committee to Study
Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence
Activities, the CIA had been “behaving like a rogue
elephant on the rampage.

SERVICE A SEIZED eagerly on Church’s ill-chosen
metaphor. The KGB’s most valuable asset in its active
measures to discredit the Agency was an embittered
former CIA operations officer in Latin America, Philip
Agee (codenamed PONT), who had been forced to
resign in 1968 after complaints at his heavy drinking,
poor financial management and attempts to proposition
wives of American diplomats. Though he remained in
the West, Agee became, in effect, the CIA’s first defector.

In 1973 he approached the KGB residency in Mexico City
and offered what the head of the FCD’s Counter-
intelligence Directorate, Oleg Kalugin, called “reams of
information about CIA operations.” The suspicious KGB
resident, however, found Agee’s offer too good to be true,
concluded that he was part of a CIA plot and turned him
away. According to Kalugin:

Agee then went to the Cubans, who welcomed him
with open arms ... The Cubans shared Agee’s
information with us. But as I sat in my office in
Moscow reading reports about the growing list of
revelations coming from Agee, I cursed our officers
for turning away such a prize.

In January 1975 Agee published an uncompromisingly
hostile memoir of his career in the CIA entitled Inside the
Company: CIA Diary, which identified approximately
250 Agency officers and agents and claimed that
“millions of people all over the world had been killed or
had their lives destroyed by the CIA and the institutions it
supports. The self-congratulatory KGB file on the
book claims, doubtless with some exaggeration, that it
was “prepared by Service A, together with the Cubans.
Mitrokhin’s notes do not indicate exactly what the KGB
and its Cuban ally, the DGI, contributed to Agee’s text.
As Agee himself acknowledged, however:
“Representatives of the Communist Party of Cuba [the
DGI] ... gave important encouragement at a time when I
doubted that I would be able to find the additional
information I needed. While Agee was writing his
book in Britain, the KGB maintained contact with him
through its co-optee, Edgar Anatolyevich Cheporov,
London correspondent of the Novosti news agency and
the Literaturnaya Gazeta.^^ At Service A’s insistence,
Agee removed all references to CIA penetration of Latin
American Communist parties from his typescript before
publication.

The key to understanding this, though, is the CIA came about and became what it was because the US needed it to counter the Russians. So now we have Russian trolls, etc., doing what they do and have done at least since Yalta and, as a result, the CIA remains as a necessity to counter that.

[John]

So is CB another Agee?

[Higgenbotham]

So is CB another Agee?

That's precisely what I suspect and the reason I quoted that. Could have even been fired for heavy drinking.

Also, having an intelligence background, he would be familiar with how to create a false persona and enlist others to support his posts.

[Cool Breeze]

So is CB another Agee?

That's precisely what I suspect and the reason I quoted that. Could have even been fired for heavy drinking.

Also, having an intelligence background, he would be familiar with how to create a false persona and enlist others to support his posts.

Now the paranoia is grand. Your premise of the CIA being necessary (this betrays you since they betray the Constitution entirely and choose who is president and what he does = see Mr. Trump) is a bizarre anachronism when America actually mattered in a good way. The Soviets aren't around, as much as you'd like them to be, which is also bizarre. They moved in the 60s to become influencers here, and they were the rootless cosmos in large part. You guys really don't know this? You did go to, and complain about universities, right?

Unbelievably how clueless you smart people are.

Who is Agee, anyway? LOL

[Higgenbotham]

So is CB another Agee?

That's precisely what I suspect and the reason I quoted that. Could have even been fired for heavy drinking.

Also, having an intelligence background, he would be familiar with how to create a false persona and enlist others to support his posts.

Now the paranoia is grand. Your premise of the CIA being necessary (this betrays you since they betray the Constitution entirely and choose who is president and what he does = see Mr. Trump) is a bizarre anachronism when America actually mattered in a good way. The Soviets aren't around, as much as you'd like them to be, which is also bizarre. They moved in the 60s to become influencers here, and they were the rootless cosmos in large part. You guys really don't know this? You did go to, and complain about universities, right?

Unbelievably how clueless you smart people are.

Who is Agee, anyway? LOL

Can everyone see how quickly Cool Breeze moved to counter this? I think we've shined the spotlight and outed this cockroach.

[Cool Breeze]

That's precisely what I suspect and the reason I quoted that. Could have even been fired for heavy drinking.

Also, having an intelligence background, he would be familiar with how to create a false persona and enlist others to support his posts.

Now the paranoia is grand. Your premise of the CIA being necessary (this betrays you since they betray the Constitution entirely and choose who is president and what he does = see Mr. Trump) is a bizarre anachronism when America actually mattered in a good way. The Soviets aren't around, as much as you'd like them to be, which is also bizarre. They moved in the 60s to become influencers here, and they were the rootless cosmos in large part. You guys really don't know this? You did go to, and complain about universities, right?

Unbelievably how clueless you smart people are.

Who is Agee, anyway? LOL

Can everyone see how quickly Cool Breeze moved to counter this? I think we've shined the spotlight and outed this cockroach.

That's rational. Or, I just signed on and was notified of it. I wonder which is more likely.

Bob Lazar would like to meet up and tell you about the anti-gravity propulsion systems he's assisted on in the Nevada desert, Higgie

[Higgenbotham]

Now the paranoia is grand. Your premise of the CIA being necessary (this betrays you since they betray the Constitution entirely and choose who is president and what he does = see Mr. Trump) is a bizarre anachronism when America actually mattered in a good way. The Soviets aren't around, as much as you'd like them to be, which is also bizarre. They moved in the 60s to become influencers here, and they were the rootless cosmos in large part. You guys really don't know this? You did go to, and complain about universities, right?

Unbelievably how clueless you smart people are.

Who is Agee, anyway? LOL

Can everyone see how quickly Cool Breeze moved to counter this? I think we've shined the spotlight and outed this cockroach.

That's rational. Or, I just signed on and was notified of it. I wonder which is more likely.

Bob Lazar would like to meet up and tell you about the anti-gravity propulsion systems he's assisted on in the Nevada desert, Higgie

I've observed how you move. You normally drop a few posts on this site, then come back in a few hours. Other posters have accused you of being a Russian troll, but that never sat quite right with me. But being a disgruntled former CIA employee and possible Russian asset does add up.

[Cool Breeze]

Can everyone see how quickly Cool Breeze moved to counter this? I think we've shined the spotlight and outed this cockroach.

That's rational. Or, I just signed on and was notified of it. I wonder which is more likely.

Bob Lazar would like to meet up and tell you about the anti-gravity propulsion systems he's assisted on in the Nevada desert, Higgie

I've observed how you move. You normally drop a few posts on this site, then come back in a few hours. Other posters have accused you of being a Russian troll, but that never sat quite right with me. But being a disgruntled former CIA employee and possible Russian asset does add up.

Other people know what I am, and you don't, which is amusing to me. Russian troll is what Democrats say about all things they don't like (Remember the Trump years?) which makes this so much more choice: you prove that you are looney like they are, even though you object to their insance policies, you tow their line, as well. Quite interesting.

[Higgenbotham]

The conspiracy theorists in the Centre convinced themselves that Nixon’s
dramatic fall from power was due far less to public
indignation over Watergate than to conspiracy by the
enemies of detente — in particular the “Jewish lobby,”
who were campaigning for unrestricted emigration by
Soviet Jews to Israel, and the military-industrial complex,
which was anxious to prevent lower arms expenditure.
The key figure in holding together the anti-Soviet
coalition, in the Centre’s view, was the liberal Democrat,
Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson. Kissinger too regarded
Jackson as “the indispensable link between the liberals,
preoccupied with human rights [in the Soviet Union], and
the conservatives, who became anxious about any
negotiations with the Soviets.” “Jackson,” one
commentator has written, “was not the type of leader who
needed an impassioned aide to tell him what to think, but
he had one anyway: Richard Perle, an intense, razor- sharp
scourge of the Soviets who, despite his cherubic smile,
earned the sobriquet Prince of Darkness from the legions
he had engaged in bureaucratic battle.” Perle was the
leader of what the KGB saw as a particularly dangerous
part of the Jewish lobby: an informal group on Capitol
Hill which included both paid Israeli lobbyists and
congressional staffers.