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[Cool Breeze]

It is amusing to me that this forum has now been fully confounded into a place where there is not a complete or cohesive thesis of what's actually going on in the world. That is largely because the older posters here can't come clean about what the USA has done for years (since WWII) in a slowly controlled fashion. That is, it has been controlled, like most countries, by people who have nothing to do with "democracy" (as if this thing matters). Or if they do, they use the foolish normies to do their bidding, and these fools haven't figured it out yet.

I have tried to tell so many here over the years just how divided and schizophrenic their minds are. One thing we can agree on, though, is that for now it's better to be living in America than a lot of these other places. That doesn't mean you aren't a slave, it just means that for now you're not in a desperate or stressful/suffering situation. For now, since I can tell you that the plan is for that to be ending much sooner than anyone wants to admit or realize.

[guest]

It is amusing to me that this forum has now been fully confounded into a place where there is not a complete or cohesive thesis of what's actually going on in the world. That is largely because the older posters here can't come clean about what the USA has done for years (since WWII) in a slowly controlled fashion. That is, it has been controlled, like most countries, by people who have nothing to do with "democracy" (as if this thing matters). Or if they do, they use the foolish normies to do their bidding, and these fools haven't figured it out yet.

I have tried to tell so many here over the years just how divided and schizophrenic their minds are. One thing we can agree on, though, is that for now it's better to be living in America than a lot of these other places. That doesn't mean you aren't a slave, it just means that for now you're not in a desperate or stressful/suffering situation. For now, since I can tell you that the plan is for that to be ending much sooner than anyone wants to admit or realize.

STATE DEPT CAUTIONS ALL AMERICANS ABROAD

[Cool Breeze]

Guys on here haven't even bothered reading the elites books, papers, and recent journal entries or white papers. These in fact detail exactly what the plans are. They did it for the covid scamdemic, they did it for the "great reset" and even gave dates for each one. I don't know why people are oblivious to this (gaslighting and shock with emotional desires to not believe it are my explanation), but they are.

I bet you that Navigator and John aren't even aware that the "famous" Jonas Salk wrote a book called "The survival of the Wisest".

How many are aware, have read it and know what it says?

[thinker]

Howdy guys, I have a little free time so I am going to put in my 2 cents worth on some topics. On Biden loosing the hispanic vote and his last chance being Cubans. If that is the case he is toast, Cubans are very right wing. We didn't want him last election and we don't want him in this one either.
On Israel and the Palestinians, I use to support Israel and then one day I saw what Israel actually did to the Palestinians including women and children. It was clearly terrorism and genocide as far as I am concerned. I have met Arabs that I liked and some I didn't like, and I can say the same for Israelis and Jews in general. Having said that I don't think we should involve ourselves in this war either. If it was up to me every Jew and supporter of Israel would be brought to Israel and every Arab in the world would be brought to the middle east and the rest of the world would tell them have at it and don't call us until you are done. One of two things would happen. Eventually both side would say we have to stop or we will destroy ourselves or one side would win. After this the rest of the world can tell whoever is left we will trade with you but we don't want to deal with or hear about your problems. I know this sounds overly simplistic but usually the simplest solutions are the best. Also Israel is loosing the propaganda war at this time. The beheaded babies story was proven to be a lie and it is looking more and more that Israel bombed that hospital. This is why you are seeing some organizations that are backed by some Israelis and Jewish NGO working in other countries calling for a cease fire. That is not going to work and this is making more problems for Israel as now more people around the world are starting to ask what else has Israel and it's backers lied about, by the way before anyone comes in and says "the Arabs lie too" I know , the thing is that people who used to take Israel at their word have started to have doubts and ask questions. This war will grow into a major war , of that I am certain.

[thinker]

On the thing with the boomers. The boomers have some blind spots. They have lots of experience and a lot of knowledge but they are very disconnected from a lot of things. Boomers live in a different reality than gen x, millenials and gen z. I am not putting blame on any generation as this is a total waste of time since it wont help with what is coming our way. I am just pointing out that this difference in realities is a real thing.

[jdcpapa]

On the thing with the boomers. The boomers have some blind spots. They have lots of experience and a lot of knowledge but they are very disconnected from a lot of things. Boomers live in a different reality than gen x, millenials and gen z. I am not putting blame on any generation as this is a total waste of time since it wont help with what is coming our way. I am just pointing out that this difference in realities is a real thing.

The realities are the same. It is awareness and perspective that differs within the subject realities Boomers are the children of the "greatest generation". Name the blind spots.

[Guest]

On the thing with the boomers. The boomers have some blind spots. They have lots of experience and a lot of knowledge but they are very disconnected from a lot of things. Boomers live in a different reality than gen x, millenials and gen z. I am not putting blame on any generation as this is a total waste of time since it wont help with what is coming our way. I am just pointing out that this difference in realities is a real thing.

The realities are the same. It is awareness and perspective that differs within the subject realities Boomers are the children of the "greatest generation". Name the blind spots.

Boomers were young during the good times and had it easy. Gex X was able to enjoy the 80s, and the 90s, which were great. The millenials and gen z have had the crumbs and have only known war, social media, and recessions.Your experiences shape you.

[Guest]

Also Israel is loosing the propaganda war at this time. The beheaded babies story was proven to be a lie and it is looking more and more that Israel bombed that hospital. This is why you are seeing some organizations that are backed by some Israelis and Jewish NGO working in other countries calling for a cease fire. That is not going to work and this is making more problems for Israel as now more people around the world are starting to ask what else has Israel and it's backers lied about, by the way before anyone comes in and says "the Arabs lie too" I know , the thing is that people who used to take Israel at their word have started to have doubts and ask questions. This war will grow into a major war , of that I am certain.

Watch these interviews on The Cradle. A series of nasty and obnoxious television interviews in the UK in which the Israelis show their true colors. The interviews are turning public opinion against them quickly. The Israelis lack of self- awareness is beyond belief; it borders on parody

And Israeli politicians have done something I thought impossible: Make the Russians appear to be on the good side

I hate Russians, but I now no longer support Ukraine because of their pro-Israel stance. Other posters have also noticed this. I don't believe the polls. People in the West fear backlash if they come out against slaughtering the Palestinians. I don't believe the Israelis have the street. The Palestinians do.
As the slaughter intensifies, Israel will find itself a pariah state.

My family connections to Israel go back to the 1960s. It's long story. I no longer support Israel. I will never again.

Israelis have always been obnoxious and hypocritical, and from personal experience, unpleasant to be around. I've attended speeches by the Israeli ambassador to the US and the ambassador to the UN, and both speeches (given in the early 90s) turned me and almost everyone else in the room anti-Israel. Until that point, I was more pro-Israel, if not completely pro-Israel. And in almost all, but not all, my personal run ins with Israelis have been unpleasant.

Watch the interviews and see what it looks like when a nation shoots itself in the foot.

Russia will 'pay the price' for supporting Gaza: Netanyahu deputy
Since the start of the war in Gaza, Israeli officials have taken to western media outlets to claim all Gazans are "Nazis" or "terrorists" that need to be eradicated

https://new.thecradle.co/articles/russi ... ahu-deputy

[Guest]

During a live interview on Russia's state-run broadcaster RT, Israeli lawmaker Amir Weitmann threatened to make Moscow “pay the price” for allegedly supporting the Palestinian resistance in Gaza.

"We're going to finish this war. We're going to win because we're stronger. After this, Russia will pay the price. Believe me, Russia will pay the price," Weitmann, the head of the libertarian caucus in Israel's ruling Likud Party, told the RT news anchor.

"Russia is supporting the enemies of Israel, Russia is supporting Nazi people who want to commit genocide on us, and Russia will pay the price [...]. We are going to finish with these Nazis, we're going to win this war [...] we're not forgetting what you are doing [...] we will come, we will make sure that Ukraine wins, we will make sure that you pay the price for what you have done," the close ally of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu continued.

Since the start of the Gaza-Israel war, the Russian government has continuously called for a peaceful resolution. This week, the nation drafted a UN Security Council resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire. However, Israel's western allies struck it down.

As the campaign of genocide carried out by Tel Aviv against millions of Palestinian civilians escalates, Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that the siege of Gaza is reminiscent of the Leningrad siege by Nazi Germany.

Weitmann's unhinged accusations follow in the footsteps of other wild claims made by current and former Israeli officials.

When asked last week during a TV interview about the suffering faced by Palestinians in Gaza, former prime minister Naftali Bennett lashed out at the interviewer and repeated the claim that Palestinian resistance fighters are “Nazis.”

“Are you seriously going to keep asking me about Palestinian civilians? What is wrong with you? Have you not seen what’s happened? We’re fighting Nazis,” the former premier shouted.

“Shame on you,” Bennett continued, interrupting and accusing the anchor of “spinning a narrative” in favor of the Palestinians.

A few days after Bennett's tirade, Israeli President Isaac Herzog claimed during a news conference that “there are no innocent civilians in Gaza.”

“It is an entire nation out there that is responsible […] It is not true this rhetoric about civilians not being aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true. They could have risen up. They could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d’etat,” Herzog claimed about the 2.3 million Palestinians – half of whom are children – who live under a brutal military blockade and are the constant targets of Israeli air raids.

While international law is clear that belligerents who fail to distinguish between combatants and civilians are guilty of war crimes, Israeli officials have been working overtime to spin the narrative that the entire population of Gaza are “terrorists” or “Nazis.”

Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant last week went even further, saying Gazans are “human animals” who must be eradicated, while National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir said that Gaza doesn't need humanitarian aid, only “tons of bombs.”

Ben Gvir's comments came a few hours after an Israeli jet bombed the Baptist Hospital in Gaza City, killing hundreds of wounded civilians, most of them women and children.

[Navigator]

Abuse is in fact horrific, for women, children or anyone.

The point I was trying to make is that it is actually an accepted part of Arab/Islamic culture. It is not in western cultures. Though obviously some degree of it exists in all cultures.

In the West, abuse is a crime and usually treated accordingly. In my own religion, when abuse is uncovered, the abuser is actually excommunicated from the church, and the case handed over to the authorities for prosecution. I have been involved in uncovering some abuse cases in my life, and have worked with others on these processes. [Note: I belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. A minor splinter group, none of whom have membership in my church, yet call themselves "Mormon", have been regularly abusing women/children. Their leader is Warren Jeffs, and he is currently serving a life sentence for such abuse.]

American Soldiers in the Middle East had to repeatedly be told NOT to intervene when they saw a man beating his wife and/or children. It is accepted in that culture that he has every right to do so if he wishes. The points about Pakistan were to show that it is the norm in that country (it is in the norm in the other large population Arab countries). It is NOT the norm in the West. Nor is homosexuality nor transgenderism. The original point was that Western culture is based on freedom/choice, while Arab/Muslim culture is based on force/subjugation.

The biggest problem the military faced in the Middle East was understanding that their culture is NOT our culture. The average American has a tendency to think that people in other cultures will react as they do and have the same basic values that they do. They do not.

When I was first told of that our strategy was going to be going into Iraq and Afghanistan to make them "shining beacons of democracy" for the rest of the Middle East, I was flabbergasted by how incredibly naive this was, as I thought it had ZERO chance of working. In Iraq I thought we should have just taken out Sadam and his cronies, and handed the reigns over to some non-revolutionary guard general and gotten the heck out of there. In Afghanistan, we the best shot was probably just to decapitate the Taliban, and found some warlord to support in keeping the Taliban under control.

America has a democracy because we allow for debate, have a free press, freedom of speech and religion, and don't kill people we disagree with (I know there are incidents in the USA that go against this, but they are on the order of a few hundred wackos out of over 300 million who practice these values.)

Arab/Middle Eastern culture does NOT have these values. Yes there are nice Muslims, and they are good hosts when they invite you over. The military has a large base in Qatar. A LOT of Soldiers would go on R&R there. The people are friendly to Americans (for now). Yet on the other hand, the government and people of Qatar are major financial supporters of Hamas and other fanatical Islamic organizations (who, by the way, have as their primary goal to kill people and establish a world-wide Islamic Empire [the "Khilafa"], forcing everyone to convert to Islam in the process, or die). Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, and Saudi Arabia (all of whom engage in the same two-faced act with the west. The 9/11 terrorists were largely Saudis financed by other Saudis) are immensely wealthy. They are also extremely small population wise, and are a small percent of the Muslim world.

The vast majority of the Middle East is Syria/Iraq/Iran/Pakistan. These places are not like the Gulf States. The people in these large population countries are comparatively poor. Here they do little business with the west, and mostly live in their tribal societies. Here is where you see the vast preponderance of Arab/Muslim culture in action. Their tribal system is actually similar to the mafia. The head of the tribe is the Godfather, and he has pretty tight control over the groups of families under his patronage. Employment of male tribal members is done through him, and he takes a cut. You operate a business in his territory, he takes a cut. He has the final say on who marries who, and when (Marriages are arranged between families in the tribe and the women are forced into them, usually by paying the tribal leader for his "approval"). You have to stay on his good side to get a job, or to get married. He has enforcement muscle to ensure his people don't step out of line. Voting, speaking or acting in any way against his wishes and you take the brunt. He has turf battles with neighboring tribes. It took the US military about a decade to figure this out, and when we finally paid these guys in Iraq to root out foreign terrorists (frequently Saudis), we could finally declare the job done (which we all knew would collapse upon our departure) and get out. The leader of the region is like the Capo of Capos in the mafia system. You do not just leave town to get a job in some other tribes area, at least not without your tribal leader and the leader of the area that you are going to have "made an arrangement" (as in you pay each of them a percentage of your salary).

In Afghanistan it was much worse because our "ally" Pakistan was stabbing us in the back the whole time. The Pakistani's were the ones sending most of the fighters into Afghanistan, and really nothing went on there that the Pakistani's didn't want to happen. BTW, they used/use the Taliban to con the US into giving them funds for their military so they can engage the Indians. Why we have supported the Pakistanis for so long rather than the Indians is beyond me.

For great insight into Iran, we can turn to John. This is John's site. John wrote a whole book on Iran and Islam. People should get a copy and read it. I did. Its very good.

If there is a wider war in the Middle East, and chances are high, the wealthy Arabs will try to stay out of it while financing the poor ones. Iran will try to drag the wider Muslim world into this. They may even get the wealthy Arabs to stop selling any oil to the West (and sell it to China instead, who needs to build up their strategic reserves for their own plans).

Sending American troops into Iran would be a complete mess, because the logistics are so iffy. Plus Iran is four times the size/population of Iraq, so you get an idea of what that would take. The military will think it can build up supply and use bases in Qatar and Saudi, and then suddenly these places will probably suddenly change sides, because they can't support the country that is supporting Israel.