Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

[Higgenbotham]

Higgie,

That's a beautiful plan, but what do you plan to do when others come by (worst case scenario, I think Greer calls them 'warbands") and help themselves to the fruits of your labor?

It's worst case, but it will probably happen; it's just a matter of when and how. In that case, this place will be abandoned and my plan is to take my family to northeast Nebraska where my ancestors settled in the 1860s. Having warbands roaming the countryside will probably go hand in hand with diesel supplies running low or running out. There are a few farms in the area of 4,000 acres there that I'm aware of that will need manpower and fortification once diesel supplies run low and will have the ability to better resist roaming warbands or become the law themselves.

This is Skousen's book in text format. I searched it for references to Nebraska and all that I read was relevant and accurate. Some of the negatives are copied below. For these reasons, it's only when diesel supplies start to contract and the stranglehold of big ag and big everything else is broken that I would make a move (to near a town of population ~1,000).

https://archive.org/stream/NorthAmerica ... s_djvu.txt

Health Environment: Nebraska ground water has elevated concentrations of
agricultural pollution and chemicals (both in air and water), but it still rates below average
compared to other states because there are fresh sources away from big commercial farms.

Notes

Nebraska is just above the geographic center of the US, which provides good access to
many parts of the country as well as distance from border threats. As the nation's top farm
and ranch state, NE is famous for its corn and soybeans. However, its agricultural base has
attracted thousands of Latinos for labor. Latino gangs and crime are an increasing concern
in Omaha and other moderately sized cities. Omaha has double the murder rate of the rest
of the state and 40% of the state's murders come from a small northeast area of Omaha,
where black gangs are prominent and historic racial tensions run deep.

Like Kansas, the family farm has been mostly replaced by huge corporate farms that can
successfully play the finance and subsidy game of big agriculture. Families continue to lose
children to the big cities, and most towns in Nebraska are small and shrinking (and will
probably remain so). The silver lining here is that this is good for survival and some security
in the rural areas.

Sadly corruption is all too prevalent in this big-farm state, which has grown to include
corporate, finance and government-centered entities as well. There is a high degree of
government control in this state, centered on Omaha and Offut AFB just to the south.
This AFB has a huge underground bunker system built by the military and is home to the
E-4B, a 747 flying command post. This is the same bunker system President Bush went
to during 9/11 together with hundreds of corporate CEOs (many from the World Trade
Center itself).

There are powerful forces at work controlling Nebraska regardless of who gets elected.
Nothing is more symptomatic of this than the shut-down of an official investigation
into Omaha's Franklin Community Federal Credit Union, raided by federal agencies
in November 1988. This case involved over $40 million that was missing but the trial
unearthed an even bigger scandal that extended all the way to Washington, D.C. and
implicated several powerful politicians. The credit union's manager was Larry King, Jr.,
a powerful figure behind many of the establishment Republican candidates that ruled
the state. Former Nebraska State Senator and attorney John De Camp wrote that "What
looked like a financial swindle, soon exploded into a hideous tale of drugs, Iran-Contra
money-laundering, a nationwide child abuse ring, and ritual murder."

[aeden]

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdmi/pr/2021_0119_Stamp
As we noted before.
They all lost money on Corn locally as we trend since 1975.
As we noted in 2019 for these times we are in another direction, and they will have to learn the hard way
on many issues since the Bitter Harvest times also and soil that was adulterated on many levels.
The warning is the same know the stocks better than your Wife.
We are utilizing call in durations and Tbill passed the Nasdaq for the year in gain.
Emptor H as the miry clay period unfolds.

[Higgenbotham]

In my opinion, the most important consideration about fleeing an area while anticipating the appearance of roaming warbands is to be sure you're slightly ahead of the point at which the warbands have control of roads. A plan can easily be mapped out ahead of time where you avoid interstates, know how much gasoline needs to be packed in the vehicle, how much time it will take to get to the destination, and all that. But if, for example, you're on what you thought was a safe road out in the middle of nowhere and you see a roadblock in the distance, then a big sign that says "Get Out or Die" you're pretty well screwed. In an era of declining access to fuel, you know what they're going to be looking for and at a minimum they will take all the extra fuel in your vehicle and siphon everything out of your gas tank.

[FullMoon]

In my opinion, the most important consideration about fleeing an area while anticipating the appearance of roaming warbands is to be sure you're slightly ahead of the point at which the warbands have control of roads. A plan can easily be mapped out ahead of time where you avoid interstates, know how much gasoline needs to be packed in the vehicle, how much time it will take to get to the destination, and all that. But if, for example, you're on what you thought was a safe road out in the middle of nowhere and you see a roadblock in the distance, then a big sign that says "Get Out or Die" you're pretty well screwed. In an era of declining access to fuel, you know what they're going to be looking for and at a minimum they will take all the extra fuel in your vehicle and siphon everything out of your gas tank.

THIS is why I have already made the move. I don't think it was the best place I could have chosen BUT it was the best got with all the stuff that came along with moving. It seems that getting out is rather shockingly getting more obviously needed. Trying to figure out an escort plan is good but then what.... Then you'll be lees than where you could've been had you actually moved before it wasn't absolutely necessary.
As a gardener, I learned the value of animal husbandry. Vegetables have a hard time sustaining a family, learn trapping/hunting or keeping your own. Quickly.

[Guest]

Higgie,

That's a beautiful plan, but what do you plan to do when others come by (worst case scenario, I think Greer calls them 'warbands") and help themselves to the fruits of your labor?

It's worst case, but it will probably happen; it's just a matter of when and how. In that case, this place will be abandoned and my plan is to take my family to northeast Nebraska where my ancestors settled in the 1860s. Having warbands roaming the countryside will probably go hand in hand with diesel supplies running low or running out. There are a few farms in the area of 4,000 acres there that I'm aware of that will need manpower and fortification once diesel supplies run low and will have the ability to better resist roaming warbands or become the law themselves.

Russia-linked hacking group suspected of carrying out cyberattack on Texas water facility, cybersecurity firm says

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/17/poli ... index.html

[tim]

In my opinion, the most important consideration about fleeing an area while anticipating the appearance of roaming warbands is to be sure you're slightly ahead of the point at which the warbands have control of roads. A plan can easily be mapped out ahead of time where you avoid interstates, know how much gasoline needs to be packed in the vehicle, how much time it will take to get to the destination, and all that. But if, for example, you're on what you thought was a safe road out in the middle of nowhere and you see a roadblock in the distance, then a big sign that says "Get Out or Die" you're pretty well screwed. In an era of declining access to fuel, you know what they're going to be looking for and at a minimum they will take all the extra fuel in your vehicle and siphon everything out of your gas tank.

In order to flee an area successfully you're going to have to be well ahead of the curve.

Wherever you flee to, unless you are already established and known in the area the locals aren't going to just let you have freedom of travel.

Well traveled roads will also be a place to ambush travelers for supplies and vehicles. By the time war bands are a fact of life traveling long distance will be dangerous.

The time to relocate is now for these reasons and also after the event happens if you haven't spent enough time in a small town or remote area the locals who have lived there their entire lives won't trust you. It takes years for people who have never lived outside of their small town life to trust a stranger and even then you will always be an outsider.

Survival is going to take local communities coming together. The more time you have to establish yourself in your area the better off you will be.

[tim]

https://archive.org/details/strategic-r ... s/mode/2up

This is a pdf of the whole book.

It's interesting that Hawaii gets zero stars when that is where all of the tech bros and Oprah have set up shop to ride out the storm.

I believe the Chinese are going to take Hawaii and land on the West Coast of North America. Maybe in Canada and Mexico. Unless you live on top of a mountain in the Pacific Northwest I don't think that is the place to be.

I wouldn't want the flat lands of the Midwest. Too easy for tanks.

[spottybrowncow]

I believe the Chinese are going to take Hawaii and land on the West Coast of North America. Maybe in Canada and Mexico.

Tim I have trouble conceiving of this happening without all the nuclear bombs (everyone's) being used. While being invaded might not be "business as usual" in Eurasia, it's happened quite a bit over the years. Modern America, not so much. I think we would be more than willing to blow up the world if it came to that. Doesn't that change things?

[tim]

I believe the Chinese are going to take Hawaii and land on the West Coast of North America. Maybe in Canada and Mexico.

Tim I have trouble conceiving of this happening without all the nuclear bombs (everyone's) being used. While being invaded might not be "business as usual" in Eurasia, it's happened quite a bit over the years. Modern America, not so much. I think we would be more than willing to blow up the world if it came to that. Doesn't that change things?

America is around 250 years old. That isn't a long enough time span to say America can't be invaded by a foreign power.

The southern border has been wide open for years and there are probably hundreds of thousands of Chinese agents already here. It wouldn't be that hard for them to take out infrastructure and cause chaos.

Look at the problems that happen from a mass shooting from a lone gunman. Imagine what trained Chinese soldiers could do with modern military equipment.

https://jrnyquist.blog/2024/04/19/strat ... immy-alex/

JRN: Many analysts here in the West are concerned about Chinese young men of military age crossing the U.S. border illegally. Is the CCP placing special forces in the U.S. secretly? Are they doing this in preparation for a future war, or is it merely in preparation for sabotage operations?

LUDE: I have talked about this since January 2023. The CCP is trying to infiltrate 250,000 military personnel into the United States. They want these people in place when the war begins – to attack water systems and military bases.

JRN: How many of these 250,000 military personnel sent to the United States as infiltrators are expected to remain loyal to the CC? If they are left here too long, won’t they be corrupted by the American way of life?

LUDE: If you betray China, you get serious punishment. First, they control who gets out of China and who goes to America. They have hostages back in China. If they smell any betrayal, you can suffer the effects of Party discipline. So, under such a strict system, it is very hard to break free. The entire operation to infiltrate America with troops is carefully organized. It is organized around a kind of Ho Chi Minh Trail for China, as in the Vietnam War. This Ho Chi Minh Trail runs through Mexico to the U.S. border.

JRN: Don’t the Chinese strategists worry about Chinese defectors from the 250,000 going over to the Americans and exposing the entire plan? What makes them so confident and bold as to try something so dangerous?

LUDE: First, 250,000 is a large number. Think of various cities in the United States. They have batch after batch of troops infiltrating America’s southern border. These troops will not show themselves openly in the USA. So, the Americans will not notice. Their mission is to force the U.S. to lose control over its own society. As long as government control is broken, the dollar system will be crushed. The key thing is to create chaos on U.S. soil. Unless you defeat the dollar system, which backs up the American military, you have no chance.

When the war starts I expect the Chinese military to quickly overwhelm our defenses similar to how France fell to Germany during WWII. France was gearing up to re fight WWI and the French military was led by old men who didn't see the merits in new technology. At the time, the French military was considered the strongest in the world.

There are some similarities to France before WWII and America. Check out The Collapse of the Third Republic: An Inquiry into the Fall of France in 1940 by William L. Shirer.

The Chinese have planned to use nukes and will use them. They have openly stated this multiple times. Why do people not believe them when they say what their plans are? I don't know. Why didn't people believe Hitler when he said what his plans were when he wrote Mein Kampf?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/ ... athanwatts

Speaking at a lecture arranged by the foreign ministry and attended by several foreign correspondents on Thursday, Mr Zhu said China was prepared to initiate non-conventional warfare over Taiwan. "War logic dictates that a weaker power needs to use maximum efforts to defeat a stronger rival," he was reported as saying by the New York Times.

"If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons."

Echoing threats last made in 1995, Mr Zhu, who has a reputation as a hawk in Chinese military circles, said his country was ready to sustain heavy casualties in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and other heavily populated areas.

"We Chinese will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian," he said. "Of course, the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese."

Although Mr Zhu said war was unlikely, his proposal that China should adopt a first-strike nuclear option against the US will alarm the Pentagon.

[Higgenbotham]

It takes years for people who have never lived outside of their small town life to trust a stranger and even then you will always be an outsider.

My mother told me 2 generations in her town of 1,000 people in rural Nebraska. In other words, the first generation stranger will never be accepted. Their children who are born in the town will be.

My mother grew up in a small town in one of the red counties of the upper midwest. edit: Actually, her county is orange. When I was a boy, she told me it takes 2 generations for a newcomer to town to be fully accepted by the people in the town. For anyone making a move to one of these areas, you would be advised to, first of all, understand the culture and, second, to expect that your family will be giving more than you take for a very long time. It's been my experience that some people will spread rumors, and some of those will not be very flattering. It is what it is.

For those whose parents left the town and were born elsewhere like me, based on examples that I have seen, if they return they are expected to do something to improve the town. When I was in the town some years ago, I was told to go down to the library to meet a guy who returned after retiring. He was helping build an addition onto the library. That got written up in the local paper with his photo.