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Clarkmod
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FullMoon wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:43 pm
Who thinks that would be appropriate or inappropriate?
You mean a single person posting as though they were multiple separate people? In that case, appropriate.
Yes, that's what I mean. A lot of times it'll be when Navigator posts. Right after one of Navigator's posts there will often be a string of multiple posts in quick succession with different Guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs. It just happened this week and I deleted most of them, but not all. It has the appearance to me of one person trying to discredit Navigator. This has been going on for a long time, not just in John's absence. But it seems to have become more frequent of late.
FullMoon wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:43 pm If you could keep Bob on a tighter leash, that would be appreciated by more people. Especially with the election season going to start heating up.
Bob has posted two cheap political attack ads that I have moved to his thread with clear explanation in the first instance. If anybody besides Bob disagrees with me and thinks that's not what those were, we can discuss it here.

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I would prefer any of Bob's posts that are questionable to be moved. He's caused trouble so many times that it's much better to be strict rather than lenient.
John has been online but hasn't posted anything for a long time. How is John doing, do you know?
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Clarkmod said
There's a Guest poster who on occasion makes a string of several posts with different guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs.

In theory, I could ban all the IPs he spams from to put a halt to that activity.

Who thinks that would be appropriate or inappropriate?
I've been on this board for a long time, though I'm an infrequent poster. I like this forum, because people with different takes on things post intelligent comments that cause me to challenge my assumptions. Unfortunately, the forum isn't as vibrant as it once was. And, as has been noted, there are some posters that don't listen at all to feedback and clog the message boards up with nonsense. There are also people, as you noted, who are here only to tear down and not add to the conversation. My opinion is that a wide variety of opinions should be allowed (ie.. it's fine to liberal or conservative, but you have to actually listen to feedback), On the other hand, IP spams are abuse that ruins things for everybody and they should be banned/blocked - same as spam caller to my phone - or spam email. Please make this a nice place to visit again by banning the abusers.

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Jack Edwards wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:44 pm Clarkmod said
There's a Guest poster who on occasion makes a string of several posts with different guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs.

In theory, I could ban all the IPs he spams from to put a halt to that activity.

Who thinks that would be appropriate or inappropriate?
I've been on this board for a long time, though I'm an infrequent poster. I like this forum, because people with different takes on things post intelligent comments that cause me to challenge my assumptions. Unfortunately, the forum isn't as vibrant as it once was. And, as has been noted, there are some posters that don't listen at all to feedback and clog the message boards up with nonsense. There are also people, as you noted, who are here only to tear down and not add to the conversation. My opinion is that a wide variety of opinions should be allowed (ie.. it's fine to liberal or conservative, but you have to actually listen to feedback), On the other hand, IP spams are abuse that ruins things for everybody and they should be banned/blocked - same as spam caller to my phone - or spam email. Please make this a nice place to visit again by banning the abusers.

Best regards
Jack
Thanks Jack. It's good to hear from another long time poster.

I'll leave this open for a few more days to hopefully hear from others.

I haven't wanted to be too heavy handed. John never was. However, as you noted, the forum isn't as vibrant as it once was, particularly in John's absence (I have not heard from him). With the hole being left, there will typically be abusers who step into a forum and try to take advantage of that, attempting to fill that vacuum with their particular agenda. Probably things are now at the point where something more needs to be done.
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Clarkmod wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:06 pm
Right after one of Navigator's posts there will often be a string of multiple posts in quick succession with different Guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs. It just happened this week and I deleted most of them, but not all. It has the appearance to me of one person trying to discredit Navigator. This has been going on for a long time, not just in John's absence. But it seems to have become more frequent of late.
I am back home and using my regular handle, since I can now log in again.

Curious as to where on the board this is occurring. Is it just this main board, or one of the areas?
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Clarkmod wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:54 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:15 pm Why do the mods keep Bob's insane posts and delete so many interesting ones? The post by the 3rd world soldier was interesting.
There's a Guest poster who on occasion makes a string of several posts with different guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs.

In theory, I could ban all the IPs he spams from to put a halt to that activity.

Who thinks that would be appropriate or inappropriate?
Why can’t this forum be like literally every other forum on the internet and require registration to post?
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I note that this thread seems to have two functions. It is a place where John can express ideas supposedly uninterrupted. It is also a general purpose thread where all can express ideas intended for everybody. Thus, when John paused posting, the thread continued to be busy. It might be prudent to have two threads? People post stuff that has nothing to do with John, I respond in the thread, and the post is censored as it doesn’t agree with John. Part of the problem is the moderator killing conversations, interactions. If something disagrees with his personal political viewpoint, he will break up the conversation. Don’t we want conversation?

If the site is suffering as ideas cannot be exchanged, perhaps we need a new moderator?

I also note that if some cannot discuss political ideas they launch a personal attack. That is not the purpose of the thread, and a clear function of the moderator. Do we need a ghetto thread for personal attacks? Mind you, it doesn’t bother me. A personal attack just indicates the attacker is incapable of political reason. But still, at times there is nothing but attacks cluttering up John’s thread.
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Navigator wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:39 am
Clarkmod wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:06 pm
Right after one of Navigator's posts there will often be a string of multiple posts in quick succession with different Guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs. It just happened this week and I deleted most of them, but not all. It has the appearance to me of one person trying to discredit Navigator. This has been going on for a long time, not just in John's absence. But it seems to have become more frequent of late.
I am back home and using my regular handle, since I can now log in again.

Curious as to where on the board this is occurring. Is it just this main board, or one of the areas?
The side threads are slower moving, so this same Guest (I believe it is the same Guest) moves with the pace of those threads. Instead of multiple posts within hours, there may be multiple posts within days.
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Tom Mazanec wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 6:52 am
Clarkmod wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:54 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:15 pm Why do the mods keep Bob's insane posts and delete so many interesting ones? The post by the 3rd world soldier was interesting.
There's a Guest poster who on occasion makes a string of several posts with different guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs.

In theory, I could ban all the IPs he spams from to put a halt to that activity.

Who thinks that would be appropriate or inappropriate?
Why can’t this forum be like literally every other forum on the internet and require registration to post?
Thanks, I think I know how you feel about this, if your opinion hasn't changed. Do you feel you would contribute more if registration was required to post?
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Clarkmod wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 8:54 am
Navigator wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:39 am
Clarkmod wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:06 pm
Right after one of Navigator's posts there will often be a string of multiple posts in quick succession with different Guest handles all coming from the same set of IPs. It just happened this week and I deleted most of them, but not all. It has the appearance to me of one person trying to discredit Navigator. This has been going on for a long time, not just in John's absence. But it seems to have become more frequent of late.
I am back home and using my regular handle, since I can now log in again.

Curious as to where on the board this is occurring. Is it just this main board, or one of the areas?
The side threads are slower moving, so this same Guest (I believe it is the same Guest) moves with the pace of those threads. Instead of multiple posts within hours, there may be multiple posts within days.
Below, I can confirm that "Guest" and "Guest No. 3" are, according to the software, the same poster. Further, I can confirm that this is also the same poster who made the string of posts referred to above that happened this week.

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