spottybrowncow wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:17 pm
I have great respect for you Navigator, but I don't think Trump will be as bad as you think. Despite his "checkered past," I believe he has been transformed by the events unfolded since he came down the elevator at Trump Tower. If any president has LOST more than Trump as a result of gaining the office (not counting successful assassinations), please point them out. He is old, and doesn't have many more years. I cannot believe he yearns for more money. He has some legal problems, to be sure, and while he may have some culpability, no one in their right mind believes any of the cases would have been brought were he not a candidate (or potential candidate) for another presidency.
I'm not particularly superstitious, but I do believe in (the Christian and Jewish) God. Being shot in the ear was just too damned incredible to not mean something - I mean, what are the odds??? As you have pointed out, this could not have been staged. Rabbi Weisberg draws a parallel between the assassination attempt and Exodus 21:6 (King James Bible) "Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever." The Rabbi claims that Trump is now God's servant. He expounds further and says that as God's servant Trump will help Israel conquer its enemies, which I think is reading a bit too much into it.
God has manifested his will through individuals since antiquity. David arranged to have a soldier under his command killed so that he could have his wife - has Trump done anything rising to that for pure evil?
Let's be honest, we could use a little divine intervention. Just sayin'.
You bring up a number of important points, and they are important to discuss.
First is what Trump lost as a result of becoming President. Trump may have lost some in the short term, but not a significant percentage of his assets while involved in politics (see link)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexand ... naldtrump/.
The author of the Forbes article has also presented evidence that Trump actually made a lot of money while in office. What I can say for sure is that Trump inflates anything connected with himself (his worth, his intellect, his abilities, his “sacrifices”, and so on).
Trump ran for President out of ego. He refused to accept that he was beaten out of ego. And he is running again in an attempt to satisfy his ego and "prove" that he is not a "loser". He is not running for financial gain. He is even happy to lose another billion if he can win the presidency again. It's about ego and power.
The case against him in NYC about falsifying business records was indeed purely politically motivated. The proof of this is that the falsification was a crime ONLY if it was used to cover up another crime. Yet the prosecutor NEVER identified what that crime was. The Judge telling the jury in the instructions that they don't need to know what the covered-up crime was, was additional proof. This will get overturned on appeal.
However, the cases of his having improperly taken secret documents and shown them to others was valid, and the government should have prosecuted this. The judge that tossed out the case did so on very shady grounds, and did so probably the quest for a higher level judicial appointment should Trump win the election (which, btw, I believe she will get if he wins).
Also, the cases of him interceding in the 2020 election, specifically in Georgia, are valid. You cannot call election officials and tell them to "find votes", and similar things. This case is currently derailed by the malfeasance of the Georgia AG in hiring her boyfriend into the case, and other shenanigans.
As most are aware, I also believe in God (and in his son Jesus Christ). I do not believe in chance, and that Trump was protected for some reason.
However, many people in positions of power have had similar things happen, and we may not fully understand why in this life. For example, Hitler’s life was saved three times that I know of. The bomb in Munich (prewar) went off after Hitler left the speaking venue early, which he had never done before. Mid war, a bomb was planted on his plane, but never went off because the pilot mistakenly flew too high and caused the bomb components to freeze (the pilot got into big trouble for causing discomfort to the important passengers). Late war, the bomb Stauffenberg planted wasn’t effective because the meeting was held in a wooden above ground building (rather than the usual underground bunker – where the contained blast concussion would have killed everyone in the room) AND someone happened to bump into the bomb containing briefcase and moved it away from where Hitler was moments before the explosion. There is of course ZERO case to say that Hitler was God’s chosen servant.
The world would be very different if the attempts on Hitler’s life had succeeded. The same may be true of Trump, his death may have caused things to happen that are very different from what God has designed.
As for Trump being “God’s servant”, God may choose former sinners to represent him, but ONLY after there is sore repentance. Trump is certainly not repentant of the serious sins he has committed. These include fraud in his business dealings (see my prior posts on this for details), innumerable cases of infidelity, and of course pride/ego (nothing about Trump says humility).
The Democrats lost what little credibility they had when they defended Clinton in his impeachment trial. He had committed offenses as a sexual predator, then lied about it under oath. They absolved Clinton because they liked his politics. We need to be careful as conservatives that we don’t do the same with Trump.