Religion and Vaccine Arguments

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The Red Cross Suppressed A Cure For Malaria in 2012, Causing Over Half A Million People To Die Every Year Since

More evidence that international health care organizations (and all governmental health care and regulatory agencies) are fully captured by Big Pharma.
The Red Cross Malaria Trial

“The Water Reference Center (WRC)” is a research center within the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC). In 2012, their CEO at the time, Klaas Proesmans, conducted a study testing the efficacy of a common water purification agent called chlorine dioxide to treat malaria. The treatment consisted of increasing the concentration in cups of drinking water to levels above those typically used solely for water purification. Note that this effective treatment was first accidentally discovered by an applied scientist working in Nigeria in 1982, as I reported in this prior post.

In that study, the WRC and the Ugandan Red Cross identified 154 patients from the community around Iganga, Uganda, using skin pricks to gather drops of blood from patients suspected of being ill with malaria. They then placed the blood on slides and examined them under a microscope to look for the malaria parasite. Then they treated the patients who were positive for malaria by giving them cups of water to drink that had been treated with chlorine dioxide in the form of what Jim Humble called “Master Mineral Solution” (a mixture of sodium chlorite and hydrochloric acid). They then had the patients return to the testing/study center daily for re-testing and clinical follow-up.

They rapidly cured 154 malaria patients within two days. Sounds historic, right? A cure for malaria had been found! But no, it was not to be. Not even close.

As word of the trial and its success began to circulate, the “authorities” sprang into action, culminating in the Ugandan Red Cross and the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC) issuing statements denying any official involvement in the study. They then went even further, stating that no formal clinical trial or endorsement of MMS took place under their auspices. The IFRC also added that “chlorine dioxide is not approved for the treatment of malaria and that any suggestion of Red Cross involvement was misleading.” They even got the CEO of the Water Reference Center who had planned and conducted the trial… to deny it ever happened.

Interestingly, none of the statements above were published in an official Press Release or statement; they were instead communicated solely via quotes in an interview with an investigative journalist in a blatantly obvious “debunking article” published by Business Insider.

First, I will review the extensive evidence verifying both the conduct and results of that trial. Then I will cover the above “Disinformation Response” from the media and the Red Cross in more detail. However, to understand the importance of the documented evidence that I will provide below, you need to know that the Business Insider article tried to “debunk” the claim that the trial was done by: 1) claiming it never took place, and 2) that Red Cross officials were “duped” into taking part. Yes, I know, the argument contradicts itself - either the trial never took place or Red Cross officials were “duped” into taking part, you can’t have both. Later, you will see how they later reconciled those two statements.
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The death cult continues hunting pregnant women and newborns. Moderna's CMV vaccine will be approved soon.


The strategy of eugenics and population control by “public health”, aka, poisoning by “vaccines” is not new, and mothers and children have always been its target. The “death care” drive to poison babies before they are born or on the first day of their life at the latest continues unabated, and yes, it is a critical agenda item that spans every administration, regardless of political party in charge. To recap just the most recent iterations, starting with Trump’s Operation Warp Speed:

Early 2020: OWS mRNA vaccine development contracts specifically mentioned 4 million pregnant women in the US as a target, ahem, “for protection”, obviously. This was months before any non-evidence that SARS-Cov2 poses risk to pregnancy was compiled by the poisoners at CDC. I covered this non-evidence here. SARS-Cov2 (whatever that was) never posed any special risk to pregnant women, but the CDC still insists that it does, and insists that ALL pregnant women be shot with mRNA, per current FDA and CDC MAHA policy.

The mRNA injections were never “officially” tested for safety in pregnancy. The strategy was to officially exclude pregnant women from clinical trials (which is the norm in drug development), but then “accidentally” get thousands of them injected anyway, collect the data and study the carnage, then lie about it to the public, coercing and manipulating pregnant women into injections at every turn. Examples of this include the infamous Shimabukuro et al study using fraudulent math. Applying the correct math showed 80%+ miscarriage rate and 300% increase in stillbirths in that dataset.

Note that JikkyLeaks, Arkmedic, Saidi, horse gambler OpenVAET + the assorted mouse crew (all of them have multiple online personas) try to misrepresent this finding and manipulate the public opinion away from it, by piling on other extraneous data. That’s bullshit. A published study is a dataset on its own, and it’s proper re-analysis is the way to demonstrate fraud on the public. Jikky crew are liars on behalf of the criminal cartel, don’t fall for their tactics.

As I published in my review of Moderna’s animal studies submitted to the FDA and FOIAed in 2022, reproductive toxicity study in pregnant rats showed extreme maternal toxicity and fetal malformations. Moderna admitted to statistically significant increase in fetal skeletal malformations:


The skeletal malformations were temporally associated to the days when highest toxicity was observed in the mothers: “Maternal toxicity in the form of clinical observations was observed for 5 days following the last dose (GD 13), correlating with the most sensitive period for rib development in rats (GDs 14 to 17)”.

The FDA included the following statement in the Basis for Regulatory Action Summary document (Section 4: Non-clinical Reproductive Toxicology, p.14):

“No vaccine-related fetal malformations or variations and no adverse effect on postnatal development were observed in the study. Immunoglobulin G (IgG) responses to the pre-fusion stabilized spike protein antigen following immunization were observed in maternal samples and F1 generation rats indicating transfer of antibodies from mother to fetus and from mother to nursing pups.”

I discussed this fact with RFK Jr on his podcast in 2022. The lie from the FDA is still there, they have not retracted it even though he is in charge of the agency now!

The CDC schedule today includes RSV shots for ALL pregnant women. Three vaxxes are approved for RSV, one of them - Moderna - is mRNA, discussed here. The others are just as poisonous. Robert Malone and Martin Kuldorff, new, MAHA co-chairs of ACIP just voted in the monoclonal antibody for RSV for ALL newborns whose mothers were not shot with RSV, which is “belt and suspenders” strategy, I guess. The RSV mAb for babies is an atrocity that killed more babies in clinical trials vs. whatever other poison was used as a “control”. Discussed in this post.

Let’s not forget that MAHA-FDA approved the new Moderna shot mNexspike based on no placebo controlled trials and no long term safety. This is discussed in this post. In the same post I discussed the soon-to-be-approved Arcturus self-amplifying RNA shot (without placebo controlled trial, naturally), and quoted report from Conspiracy Sarah on the $500M going to Jeffrey Taubenberger’s gold standard universal poison using BPL, and I separately discussed it here. All of these will be pushed on pregnant women per Makary-Prasad “new” mRNA policy.

You probably know this already - Prasad is back at the FDA as head of CBER, after a week of “spending more time with his family”. Does it mean he hates his family and wants to spend more time with the FDA?
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com ... to-tiffany
So what did really happen to Tiffany Dover?

The story of the nurse who collapsed on live TV after being given one of the first Covid Pfizer shots
https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/new ... eric-polio
New Bill Gates-Funded Chimeric Polio Vaccine for Children Sheds 100% in Recipients, Spread Documented: 'The Lancet' Journal

Frankenstein pathogen cobbled from multiple viruses gained genetic stability, meaning scientists rewired its genome with an unnatural trait no wild poliovirus has.
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/the-am ... atrics-ed2
The American "Academy" of Pediatrics has published its own recommendations for a childhood vax schedule.

Doctors who follow it will be surprised to learn they may not be shielded from liability, and parents may get hefty bills in the mail.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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Houston, We Have Another Problem: Unvaccinated Children Born of Past-Vaccination Mothers, Despite Never Contracting Covid...Are Dying Now at 77% Excess - a 24 Sigma Event

Before we get to the horrifying data that once again proves that these Modified mRNA slow kill bioweapon “vaccines” are genetically modifying future generations, even if they are not directly injected with these EUA poisons, let us briefly review a grim statistic for those demographics that did get these democide shots:

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As predicted by this Substack years ago, this disability trend, directly in line with VAIDS symptoms that are increasingly expressing themselves across all age groups, even ones that historically never came down with diseases such as (turbo) cancer, will only get worse.

And now let us review the gene altering implications of these murderous “vaccines” in the newly born and unborn alike…
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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Flu Shot Revolt: Troops Say They’re Being Crushed for Refusing ‘Unlawful Orders’

“President Trump and Defense Secretary Hegseth are giving the illusion that they are trying to make it right—but soldiers say their careers are being destroyed.”
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/i ... pediatrics
INSANITY: American Academy of Pediatrics Demands All Infants Be Vaccinated for COVID— Even Against Parents’ Will!

Pediatricians push mRNA jabs for babies as young as 6 months, fueling outrage over parental rights and Big Pharma influence.
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/b ... rchers-tie
BREAKING: Russian Researchers Tie mRNA Rollout to Alarming Rise in Cancer Cases

Groundbreaking Russian research links mass vaccination to unexpected surge in cases and deaths.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/yale ... y-research
Yale’s Censored Vaccine Injury Research and the Urgent Need for Scientific Reform

Unveiling Jay's Bhattacharya's extraordinary initiative to rebuild American Science
Story at a Glance:

•One premier research group has bravely studied the vaccine-injured and provided many critical details about their multi-year illnesses.

•Unfortunately, despite their excellent research, medical journals have refused to publish their results, including the most recent study which showed clear differences exist between long COVID and COVID-19 vaccine injuries.

•Science is ultimately predicated upon the methods we use discern what is actually true (epistemology). As this subject has been neglected, our epistemological standards frequently result in existing dogmas and vested interests being reaffirmed while critically important data never reaches the public awareness (e.g., due to widespread medical journal censorship).

•During COVID-19, the severe abuses of the scientific community (which ultimately resulted from it having no accountability for failing to uphold its social responsibilities) broke the public trust in science, and allowed something previously inconceivable—MAHA to gain control of our corrupt scientific apparatus and have a mandate to reform it.

•NIH director Jay Bhattacharya has announced his commitment to fixing the scientific apparatus and has engaged in a variety of NIH initiatives and public discussions which are vital to allowing science to serve the people rather than vested-interests.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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Revamped CDC Panel Taps Covid Vaccine Critic to Lead Task Force
Story by Jessica Nix

(Bloomberg) -- An influential vaccine panel’s task force will be led by a member who has previously expressed distrust in the Covid vaccine, weeks after a shooting on the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was fueled by Covid misinformation.

Retsef Levi, an operations professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, will lead the Covid-19 immunization task force, a spokesperson for Health and Human Services confirmed without offering additional comment. Levi has previously said the Covid shots should be removed from the market and has called the safety of mRNA shots into question.

“The evidence is mounting and indisputable that MRNA vaccines cause serious harm including death, especially among young people. We have to stop giving them immediately!” Levi posted on X in January 2023.

Levi was appointed to the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, in June during an overhaul of the panel. Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired all 17 members, citing high levels of conflicts of interest, and replaced them with seven members, many of which are vaccine critics.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ ... ffcc&ei=15
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Newsweek

RFK Jr. may roll back major achievement Donald Trump called "monumental"
Story by Nick Mordowanec

President Donald Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are allegedly planning to ban the COVID vaccine "within months," years after Trump labeled the vaccine's development during the pandemic as a "monumental achievement," according to an associate of Kennedy's.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ ... 32f2&ei=10
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Higgenbotham wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:22 pm
Newsweek

RFK Jr. may roll back major achievement Donald Trump called "monumental"
Story by Nick Mordowanec

President Donald Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are allegedly planning to ban the COVID vaccine "within months," years after Trump labeled the vaccine's development during the pandemic as a "monumental achievement," according to an associate of Kennedy's.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ ... 32f2&ei=10
When the truth comes out and people realize what has been done, will this be the catalyst to the crisis?

The countless people who were mandated to get this injection or lose their livelihood and ability to provide for their families won't be happy when the knowledge becomes mainstream.

I once read that the Chernobyl Disaster in 1986 precipitated the collapse of the Soviet Union and the mRNA injections may be our "Chernobyl Disaster".
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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https://www.malone.news/p/weaponizing-m ... on-to-bury
Weaponizing "Misinformation" to Bury Safety Concerns: A Response on RSV Monoclonal Antibodies
Yaffa Shir-Raz

The recent critique raises a number of claims regarding my article. This response addresses the substantive points directly, focusing solely on the evidence.

When evaluating new interventions for healthy newborns, presenting the full safety record – including every death – is not optional, it is a fundamental obligation. This is always true, but in the case of Merck’s clesrovimab it was especially critical: the FDA skipped presenting the product to its advisory committee on the grounds that it was "not first in class." This left ACIP as the only public forum charged with reviewing the product. Instead of two independent layers of oversight, there was only one. In such circumstances, withholding or downplaying deaths meant that ACIP – the sole safeguard – was not given the complete picture it needed to protect infants and families.

Before turning to the substantive issues, two clarifications are in order:

A large portion of the critique is devoted to personal ad hominem remarks. Such rhetoric does not honor the principles of scientific debate and is contrary to what science should represent. I will therefore not address these attacks further.

Some of the first claims in the critique actually concern an article by Dr. Maryanne Demasi, which I cited. Since I included them, I will clarify them briefly:

"The CDC split the age groups (0-37 days vs. 38 days-8 months) for sound epidemiological reasons, not to conceal a signal."
My article highlighted that the split erased statistical significance. A unified calculation shows a nearly four-fold increase in seizure risk, a signal that was never presented to ACIP. The split was not explained during the meeting, and it occurred exactly at the point when routine vaccinations begin. Even if additional vaccines are a confounder, that does not absolve the CDC of its obligation to present the combined analysis. An advisory committee deserves to see both the stratified and the pooled results.

"Pooling the two age groups is not epidemiologically valid."
I wrote explicitly that the problem lies in presenting only a single stratified analysis that removed the signal. Good pharmacovigilance practice requires sensitivity analyses, including pooled windows and alternative models. A pooled analysis is standard in post-marketing surveillance, and the CDC should have shown it as well.

Beyond the factual dispute, this argument demonstrates a methodological fallacy: it invokes epidemiological rigor selectively. The critic dismisses pooled safety analysis as "inappropriate" while ignoring that pooling is exactly the standard practice for rare adverse events. This selective deployment of rigor is itself unscientific. The same inconsistency appears in the treatment of confidence intervals: wide intervals do not make results meaningless; they mean large risks cannot be ruled out, which is precisely why transparency is required.
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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