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[spottybrowncow]

1. Trump wants to give each citizen (voter) at $2000 check. He says that everyone deserves a portion of the tariffs he set up.

My first thought when I read that he was doing this was that it was to put additional pressure on the Supreme Court to approve tariffs.

[FullMoon]

1. Trump wants to give each citizen (voter) at $2000 check. He says that everyone deserves a portion of the tariffs he set up.

My first thought when I read that he was doing this was that it was to put additional pressure on the Supreme Court to approve tariffs.

Maybe that's part of it but, it's about putting more money into the banking system. Because we all know that the "bankers" run the world and get what they. We do have the best politicians and political system that money can. Literally speaking haha

[FullMoon]

When ever I would ask for any help which wasn't often I was usually told to toughen up and pull myself up by my bootstraps and how I was lucky that I had it better than the poor illegals that were flooding the labor market and devaluing my labor. I worked 2 jobs for most of my life and sometimes I would work 3 jobs. That and a little bit of good luck is how I was able to get ahead, and still past generations were far better off than I am at this age. My brothers and I know what it's like to have a bad injury like a broken hand and still have to push through and keep working because you don't have any other choice.

I didn't "understand" fiscal prudence until I was riding a public city bus and realized I might not have enough money for the next week. I was living in a foreign country that didn't have handouts for the hungry (ironically it's a 'Communist' country PRC).
I live on the 'Left' coast and we've got plenty of Latino workers pretty much everywhere. I personally don't care about how they got here but wish that we had a fair system that lets people in a rational way. Because my ancestors immigrated here too. People who want to come and integrate and make the country better are appreciated. But I'm sure we've all seen that there's actually lots that haven't come to make it better and actually make it worse. It's bad enough that all of the effort and dreams of the founding fathers are being absolutely ruined by their own ancestors. The depressing part of following these things as they go along is that they were predictable and were predicted and now that they're apparent to everyone, there's no glory or happiness in being correct. Cassandra wasn't a happy story but a true story that generations STILL haven't understood.

[Navigator]

1. Trump wants to give each citizen (voter) at $2000 check. He says that everyone deserves a portion of the tariffs he set up.

My first thought when I read that he was doing this was that it was to put additional pressure on the Supreme Court to approve tariffs.

I do not see how this would put pressure on the Supreme Court. Maybe that's what he is trying to do, but I think the Supremes are pretty well beyond popular opinion pressure.

I think that Trump has done a great job with the Tariffs. Just wish that he had gotten some kind of law through Congress to give him much more authority to do so. I am afraid that the Supreme Court is going to rule against Trump and repeal the tariffs. Which could create a fiscal crisis.

[Navigator]

When ever I would ask for any help which wasn't often I was usually told to toughen up and pull myself up by my bootstraps and how I was lucky that I had it better than the poor illegals that were flooding the labor market and devaluing my labor. I worked 2 jobs for most of my life and sometimes I would work 3 jobs. That and a little bit of good luck is how I was able to get ahead, and still past generations were far better off than I am at this age. My brothers and I know what it's like to have a bad injury like a broken hand and still have to push through and keep working because you don't have any other choice.

I didn't "understand" fiscal prudence until I was riding a public city bus and realized I might not have enough money for the next week. I was living in a foreign country that didn't have handouts for the hungry (ironically it's a 'Communist' country PRC).
I live on the 'Left' coast and we've got plenty of Latino workers pretty much everywhere. I personally don't care about how they got here but wish that we had a fair system that lets people in a rational way. Because my ancestors immigrated here too. People who want to come and integrate and make the country better are appreciated. But I'm sure we've all seen that there's actually lots that haven't come to make it better and actually make it worse. It's bad enough that all of the effort and dreams of the founding fathers are being absolutely ruined by their own ancestors. The depressing part of following these things as they go along is that they were predictable and were predicted and now that they're apparent to everyone, there's no glory or happiness in being correct. Cassandra wasn't a happy story but a true story that generations STILL haven't understood.

I have no problem with people coming to the USA, working hard, and building a better life for themselves and their family.

The biggest problem with the recent/current situation is the people coming here who have no intention of working. Currently, it is costing the US taxpayer/government, over $60K per year per illegal immigrant. It is MUCH worse in Europe.

A sensible system would be a guest worker program. You can come in if you have a job lined up. You work, stay out of trouble, and then you can bring in your IMMEDIATE family, meaning your spouse and kids. NOT your extended family.

The problem with the guest worker program is that neither side wants it. Dems just want bodies, and are more than happy to buy their votes with handouts. Republicans are beholden to businesses that want to employ illegals with no documentation on the cheap.

[Bob Butler]

I can agree with much of what Navigator says about immigrants only bringing in immediate family, and both parties having questionable motivations, but lining up a job when not in country would be hard. How would that work?

Tariffs would not be working as intended. They are not supposed to be issued for economic reasons. I would not be shocked by the courts shooting them down. Yes, the result would be ugly. Trump has turned international trade and US economics upside down. Just as we're settling onto a new normal the courts could pull the plug on the tariff based economy. I'm glad to be retired with well secured finances. Things are a mess and could be due to get worse.

[Navigator]

Under a Guest Worker program, jobs are advertised by employers through US embassies and consulates worldwide. Companies pay to have applicants vetted and then for their transportation to the job location.

Trump's tariffs are addressing the wholly one sided trade agreements the US has had for the last 30-40 years. Trump is right that our main trading partners have put prohibitive tariffs on US products, while we have allowed them to ship almost anything to the US with almost no tariffs. Take Japan as the example. The Japanese have a HUGE tariff on agricultural imports (ostensibly to protect their domestic farmers), while we allow them to ship millions of cars to the US with comparatively miniscule import fees (allowing them to greatly impact US auto manufacturers).

The idea was that by removing tariffs on imports, US consumers would get cheaper products. Unfortunately, it has meant the demise of almost every manufacturing sector in the US economy. Trump is trying to reverse that, and, yes, it will take years, but it has to start somewhere.