Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

[Higgenbotham]

If I recall, some years ago Trevor on this forum said he was surprised more people don't reference the Bronze Age collapse when making comparisons.

I've just started reading the book and I'm a little disappointed that the Bronze Age Collapse hasn't been mentioned. This is probably the worst societal collapse in our history, even worse than the Western Roman Empire. Bad as that one was, it was a single civilization. Over the course of a century, all these civilizations went from thriving to dead, which only Egypt managed to survive (and even they were drastically weakened)

All of them were intertwined, dependent on each other through trade, meaning that anything that happened to one of them affected the others, dragging everyone down. It took centuries for the region to recover.

I agree it will take centuries to recover from the coming collapse. Maybe 2-3 to hit bottom and 7 more to recover.

[aedens]

Cline did a dissertation on it as not caused by a single event but by a "perfect storm" of interconnected failures.
That was a given as a read here also with the usual suspects. Numerous reports from the Dorians add a lot of texture also.
https://dn721503.ca.archive.org/0/items ... _Steel.pdf

Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:48 pm This is about power. They seized it once and intend to keep it when they get it back at all costs.
Everything else is cover up. History shows that when a hostile infection is in the State it acts by supporting international and domestic organized crime against the target, gradually weakening the target until it can be completely looted.

Economic Sabotage.
This isn’t just academic misjudgment.

Job covered it also if you read it clearly to who He actually was.

Classical annihilation from Doctor Bill Warner did not even budge the Lunatics.

Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:48 pm This is about power. They seized it once and intend to keep it when they get it back at all costs.
Everything else is cover up. History shows that when a hostile infection is in the State it acts by supporting international and domestic organized crime against the target, gradually weakening the target until it can be completely looted.

Economic Sabotage.
This isn’t just academic misjudgment.
Learn to code.

Still looking at the Elam code they just resolved. Like it was forwarded had to wait two decades for one Book from the Caves.
The decipherment allows the Elamite language—one of the oldest in human history—to be read in its own indigenous script, offering new insights into the Bronze Age civilization and potentially paving the way to solving the even older, related Proto-Elamite script.

Locally the other script was resolved and yes some did poison the well.
Barry Fell did some work few even know about to what and who also.
Randall Carlson has assembled presentations that cement the events also clearly that
the alleged experts loath. I feel the Elam files are clear enough for the rational.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2L1QyEI9Nw
In that day shall the fair virgins and young men faint for thirst. Amos

[tim]

What is Professor Jiang saying about the bronze age collapse and why it is relevant to today?

AI Overview

Professor Jiang (commentator and educator Jiang Xueqin) describes the Late Bronze Age Collapse as a "systems collapse" driven by hyper-globalization, extreme wealth inequality, and a concept known as "elite overproduction".

He argues this history is highly relevant today for several key reasons:

Hyper-Globalization Vulnerability: He compares the deeply interconnected nature of the Late Bronze Age (where empires relied heavily on a singular global trade commodity, tin) to our modern reliance on tech and supply chains, warning that these intricate systems are fragile and prone to sudden, cascading failures.

Elite Overproduction: He utilizes historian Peter Turchin's theory, arguing that modern society is producing too many elites (wealthy, educated, and power-hungry individuals) competing for limited power and resources. This leads to intense social friction, corruption, and a disconnect between the ruling class and the working public.

Financialization & Exploitation: He contends that capital fundamentally alters human behavior, transforming societies from community-focused to utilitarian. While this globalization initially brings massive wealth, it eventually leads to exploitation, wealth disparity, and economic stagnation.

Ultimately, Professor Jiang suggests we are witnessing a similar "unipolar moment" (the collapse of a single dominating empire) and warns that the inherent flaws of modern global capitalism could lead to a similar systemic breakdown within the next decade.

He is also known for his YouTube channel Predictive History, on which he styles himself as "Professor Jiang".

Not a real professor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Xueqin

But interesting nonetheless.

Not a real “professor” is a good thing.

During a fourth turning institutions unravel and collapse. The experts can’t always be trusted due to corruption.

No different then saying Covid came from a wet market in wuhan and to question otherwise and not trust the experts was a conspiracy theory.

[Fullmoonn]

Not a real professor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Xueqin

But interesting nonetheless.

Not a real “professor” is a good thing.

I've watched more several of his interviews and plenty of his "lessons ". At first I was quite impressed because he is a great intellect. But he's pretty obviously some kind of disinformation agent. First culprit is CCP because he lives in Beijing with his family and does many foreign country interviews and has a YouTube channel. Big red flag. L perhaps he's a double agent or something to the effect. There's just many layers and players trying to create a narrative because information warfare is critical.
But I do agree that they all know at some level that interconnectness means that they lose most of what currently exists when they break apart.
Probably why the mad race for AI , robotics etc. They know they'll lose most of the people that and the survivors they hope to contain with technology. Probably won't work. They're like a bunch of psychopaths who will all jump out of the plane with a single parachute and fight over it on the way down. As everyone else crashes. It's a death battle of epic proportions. Starvation coming soon is planned and facilitated currently. Stock up folks and get outta populated areas while you can. Good luck.

[Higgenbotham]

Thanks for your comments. The absolute ablest analysts will be out on the periphery but the question is where to find them. In the case of this particular "professor" I thought the snippet was worth posting. Many times I have posted something, then after further investigation, deleted it. In this case, I left the post up, but added a caution. I'm cautious of anyone who calls himself a professor but is not. It's in the same category for me as an academic who is bought and paid for.

The person purported to have the highest IQ in America, Christopher Langdon, calls academics "acadummies". I don't quite go that far but would illustrate it like the picture below. The tail on the right should be thinner. Within that thin tail will be the best stuff and it will come from the periphery, not the center. John did a decent job when he was around. I may not have agreed with all of it (the Singularity in particular) but it was always worth reading. The Archdruid (John Michael Greer) is independent and does good work. I feel he is very intelligent and has unique insights. Marc Widdowson is underappreciated. Mostly I just post quotes from his book because his work stands on its own for the most part. Tainter (an academic) is decent. In Diamond's case, I think the perception has outrun the reality. He's a favorite of the 97th percentile (managerial and academic class that effectively runs the US) and that tells you most of what you need to know.



The mainstream academic analysts are bounded. There's a bar that they have to cross at a minimum but it's been lowered in recent decades. There's a maximum threshold that the system no longer allows them to cross. That's not confined to academia, but applies to anything at the center. I would add that someone at the center may have the ability to cross that bar, but if they do, they will be kicked out to the periphery. I can't remember the name of the Senator, but the recent hearings about the Wuhun coverup are ridiculous and illustrate this well.

[Higgenbotham]

My take on what will fundamentally set this collapse into motion is the fact that the center of power resides within a small group of US corporations that also, as we know, have a revolving door connected to government where personnel including key individuals and lobbyists go back and forth as it now operates as one entity and the ideal where there is a private sphere of influence within the capitalist system and a public sphere that can look out for the longer term has been erased. These corporations are optimized to perform optimally within a very narrow set of conditions and the time window for monitoring their performance is quarterly. Now the least little thing that throws the system outside this very narrow set of conditions that these corporations can perform in will set the collapse into motion. In 2008, it was just subprime that I think it was by the 4th quarter of 2008 caused the entire S&P 500 to operate at a huge loss and necessitated massive bailouts for years to stabilize the system. Bernanke and Draghi were still pouring money in as late as 2010 and 2011. Meanwhile, the conditions have continued to narrow.