Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

aedens
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I respect your findings on limitations H.
As we seen one day it just stopped.
These dependency claims as even open border did proves it is incapable to repair
even itself. The current disaster unfolding in even the Latin zone proves what was already known.

Data Limitations: Kuznets himself warned that his data was scarce and limited to specific historical periods, cautioning against treating the curve as a universal rule.
What is allowed to be seen and what they did sealed what was done. Corrupt past any ability to inculcate the
course of repair. If the Democrats think they will triangulate the message away from what was and is
being done proves what we already know the rot has already indeed past being corrected.
Collapse is the only point they will regard since all they infer is to delay and the easy thread to pull.
One produces the glass another breaks it and calls it profit based debt ledger.

Furthermore this comprehensive literature points out critical issues and gaps in the Environmental Kuznets Curve analysis. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9668524/
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https://www.collapselife.com/p/notes-f ... zation-409
Notes from the edge of civilization: June 28, 2026

In India, factory workers are training robots; the UK is criminalizing clean-ups; and Australia is paving the way for all of us to 'show our papers' online.
A new report from The Guardian describes factory workers in India being asked to wear head-mounted cameras while they sew garments, fold towels, build, sort, and perform other physical tasks. At first, some workers found the setup funny; that is until they realized they were producing training data, known as ‘egocentric data’, for the robots who would eventually replace them.

Large language models like Chat GPT and Grok were trained on huge volumes of text scraped from across the internet. But humanoid robots like the ones Elon Musk is developing need data that teaches them how to move through the real world. And increasingly that data is coming from human laborers doing repetitive, precise, underpaid work. A few weeks ago, we told you about a company called Shift that offers free apartment cleaning to New Yorkers who allow human cleaners to wear cameras while they work. The pitch: “You get a spotless apartment. We get training data.”

But just like with everything else, there’s a way to cut costs by offshoring the work. So instead of workers in New York gathering data in exchange for free housecleaning, increasingly the data is coming from garment factories, construction sites, warehouses, and informal labor markets in India, where workers already earn just a few dollars a day. Now their movements are becoming a valuable digital asset for companies racing to automate industrial work, and they get nothing in return except maybe a soft drink once in a while.

This is the next stage of the AI economy: not just stealing words, images, music, and creative work, but extracting human movement. And then eventually, humanity itself.

At any rate, the worker sells their labor once, then the recording of that labor gets cleaned, annotated, packaged, licensed, resold, and used to build systems that may eventually make the worker unnecessary. It’s the cycle of life, right?

The quote that says it all comes from Lalita, one of the garment workers profiled in The Guardian story: “We are not even getting our full worth for the work we do now. Who is going to pay us when we are replaced by robots?”

Bingo!
“Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; - Exodus 20:5
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https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals ... BAD7E25291

Happy accidents to garner control. FDR in plain words told them no accidents exist in Politics.
Consequences are rather evident and so is the rate of those being erased.

Avarice the spur of greed.
"The rules of morality are not the conclusions of our reason." - David Hume

"It is not that government has lacked information needed to fix the problem. It is institutionally incapable of bringing about the desired result, since the principles of profit and loss, private property and contract, enterprise and entrepreneurship, do not exist in government.
Any Government operates with an eye to its own short-term survival,
and those of its connected interest groups, and nothing else." Mises

The root kits sweeps have one purpose.
As we seen in real time they actually tracked the packets of the criminal agency and was simply black holed.
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From Google AI:
Do Samo Burja and Higgenbotham from Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel share a similar view regarding the end of industrial civilization and the fact that an information age has not happened?

Yes, Samo Burja and the anonymous intellectual behind Dark Age Hovel (often associated with traditionalist, neo-reactionary, or "bronze age" critiques) share striking alignment in their diagnoses. Both argue that the Industrial Revolution essentially stopped before completion and that we have not entered an information age.

Both thinkers share the view that our current society is stagnant rather than progressing.

The End of Industrial Civilization

Samo Burja: The sociologist and founder of Bismarck Analysis argues in his essay, The End of Industrial Society, that industrialization exhausted its social innovations before completing the transformation of society. He contends that we are living in the lingering, entropic aftermath of a halted Industrial Revolution, marked by lost foundational knowledge.

Dark Age Hovel: The author of Dark Age Hovel shares this perspective, viewing our contemporary era as a late-stage industrial society where technological momentum is stalling and civilization is degrading or in "slow collapse" .

The Myth of the Information Age

Samo Burja: Burja directly challenges the idea that we live in a novel "Information Age." He notes that current digital infrastructure and the "Internet of Things" have failed to introduce the fundamentally new "social technologies" required to elevate civilization beyond the Industrial era.

Dark Age Hovel: This author similarly critiques modern tech, viewing digital devices and the internet as surface-level symptoms of a deeply stagnant system rather than a true leap into a new historical epoch.

Both conclude that instead of moving forward, we are living in a "post-industrial" trap, where institutional decay prevents us from capitalizing on the raw technological power we inherited from the past.
AI has its limitations as demonstrated. Though I do believe that Burja comes closer than anyone I've run across to articulating the same reasons this is not an information age, why it's not, and what would generally be required to get to an information age.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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