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12345 wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:12 am

Peckham protests illustrate the redundancy of ‘Bame’
Tensions between non-white minorities have been persistently ignored

Following footage circulating online of a black woman accused of theft being physically restrained by a male Asian-heritage shopkeeper in the south-east London district of Peckham, the matter of community cohesion in England’s diverse inner cities has once again been thrust into the spotlight.

Tense community relations between elements of Britain’s wider Asian and black populations are nothing new. The 2005 Birmingham riots — specifically in the relatively deprived Lozells and Handsworth areas — were primarily between people of Pakistani origin and Black Caribbean heritage. The riots were sparked following rumours that a teenage black girl had allegedly been gang-raped by a group of Pakistani-heritage men in a beauty parlour. The unsubstantiated whispers were presented as fact by two pirate radio stations, contributing towards a major escalation. The riots were connected to two fatalities: 23-year-old Isaiah Young-Sam and teenager Aaron James.

However, much like south-east London in the present, there were simmering tensions between Asian-origin business owners and local black residents in Birmingham. The acquisition of many local businesses by Asian-origin entrepreneurs had reportedly unsettled members of African-Caribbean communities, and this was exacerbated by complaints of mistreatment against Asian-heritage business owners by black customers. Those who ran the enterprises responded by accusing members of the African-Caribbean community of envy for their socioeconomic progress and ownership of assets. More serious allegations included theft, with one Pakistani-heritage shopkeeper referring to black people as “the lowest of the low”.

Fast forward to September 2023 and virtually identical dynamics have taken root in south-east London — racial friction based on socioeconomic status and business ownership, a breakdown of shopkeeper-customer relations along ethnic lines, and a fundamental lack of neighbourhood policing enforcement to maintain public order. In places such as Peckham, the local black population comfortably outnumbers the Asian one, yet a significant number of small-to-medium-sized enterprises which cater to the former, wider demographic are owned by the latter.

Social interactions which could optimistically be viewed as opportunities to build trust and mutual respect between groups have instead been rendered toxic by an intensifying competition of resources, ethnic prejudice, and growing business-customer resentment. This is worsened by the absence of a well-respected model of neighbourhood policing which covers areas with a high concentration of street shops.

The latest events in Peckham highlight the utterly redundant nature of the “Bame” acronym, which tends to mask the reality that some of the sharpest social fault lines in modern Britain do not involve the white-British mainstream at all. A report published in August 2020 by Hope Not Hate found that twice as many so-called “Bame” respondents agreed (40%) than disagreed that there is more tension between Britain’s minority communities, when compared with those between white and non-white populations.

This was followed by a February 2021 HJS-ICM study which found that black British respondents were more likely to have an unfavourable view of Pakistani-, Bangladeshi-, and Indian-heritage people (11.2%, 11.1%, and 8.7% respectively) than white Britons (7.9%).

While apparently progressive politicians in the inner cities continue to repeat empty platitudes such as “diversity is our strength”, the failure to integrate ethnically diverse communities carries significant risks to public order. This threat is further complicated by ethnic differences in socio-economic status and the de facto decriminalisation of low-level crime in many urban areas.

Social and economic tensions in Peckham between non-white communities does not constitute a recent phenomenon. Rather, these serve as yet another reminder of the complexities of modern Britain and the fact that diversity is by no means an unadulterated good. As it stands, far too many in positions of national and local leadership are sleeping at the wheel.

Several journalists in the UK have blamed (and I kid you not) 'White Supremacy' for the violence between blacks and Pakistanis/Indians (which are called 'Asians in the UK).

This is where the real violence is already erupting. In England its blacks vs. Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Koreans, Chinese, Eastern Europeans, etc.

In America its blacks fighting with every race except for white liberals (which blacks happily victimize).

Source: https://unherd.com/thepost/peckham-prot ... ame-label/

Cool Breeze wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:10 am

Higgenbotham wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 3:31 pm Where and when do you think the combination of highest quality and highest square footage mass housing construction took place?

That is a great question, and it is not my area of expertise, but you seem well versed in it, so I'll venture to guess that regions like Texas and similar are up there and you're right or very close.

You make a lot of good points otherwise too in that post. I think quality was much higher as well, but there is something to be said about expansive nonsense in housing and I think that also comes with the gynocentric culture of consumption. As women and wives dramatically changed, and were more manipulated by the powers that be, families acquiesced to greater spending, and nonsense spending, than ever before. Yes.

Either way, costs are high, and housing costs are high. What I'm saying here also dovetails with the fertility issue, with women ascending in society (talking European Ameicans especially here), costs go up, labor is paid less, and principles erode. Cue Glubb again if you wish, but all of this is obvious.

It's funny to me how this is generally not received well at this forum, which shows me that many of the posters, although "conservative" haven't really thought about what they stand for, or the Overton Window all that much.

Higgenbotham wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:12 pm The correct way to think about getting a college degree in the Lottery Economy is, with elite overproduction, there will not be enough available seats for all degree holders, even for engineers, and the process for who gets those seats will be more random than people would like to think (a pandemic hits the year you graduate, for example). Engineering schools and others will publicize the average starting salary for an engineer at about $80,000 currently. That is not the true average; it is the average for those who fill the available seats. Still, I think the premium for obtaining the degree and getting a seat at the table is enough that placement rates would have to fall below about 30% before kids who are capable would consider not playing the STEM lottery based on monetary considerations alone.

‘It’s Not Necessary’: As College Gets More And More Expensive, Gen Z Just Isn’t Going

BRANDON POULTER
September 13, 2023


College enrollment in the U.S. is currently at a 16-year low as tuition grows increasingly expensive and college degrees lose value.

Colleges have become much more expensive over the past 40 years, and the benefits to prospective students’ wealth are decreasing, leading some would-be Gen Z students to avoid college altogether. Similarly, other prospective students are becoming less trustful of institutions and are disenchanted with the politics of college life.

Roughly 18 million students were enrolled in university in the fall 2022 semester, nearly 2 million less than in the fall of 2011, according to the National Student Clearing House Research Center. From the fall of 2019 to the spring of 2023, college enrollment fell by nearly 9%.

“So many young people today are finally waking up to the reality that unless you’re going to choose a major with very high earnings, potentially college is not a good financial decision for you,” E.J. Antoni, a public finance economist at The Heritage Foundation, told the DCNF.

Higgenbotham wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 5:52 pm

Higgenbotham wrote: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:12 pm The correct way to think about getting a college degree in the Lottery Economy is, with elite overproduction, there will not be enough available seats for all degree holders, even for engineers, and the process for who gets those seats will be more random than people would like to think (a pandemic hits the year you graduate, for example). Engineering schools and others will publicize the average starting salary for an engineer at about $80,000 currently. That is not the true average; it is the average for those who fill the available seats. Still, I think the premium for obtaining the degree and getting a seat at the table is enough that placement rates would have to fall below about 30% before kids who are capable would consider not playing the STEM lottery based on monetary considerations alone.

‘It’s Not Necessary’: As College Gets More And More Expensive, Gen Z Just Isn’t Going

BRANDON POULTER
September 13, 2023


College enrollment in the U.S. is currently at a 16-year low as tuition grows increasingly expensive and college degrees lose value.

Colleges have become much more expensive over the past 40 years, and the benefits to prospective students’ wealth are decreasing, leading some would-be Gen Z students to avoid college altogether. Similarly, other prospective students are becoming less trustful of institutions and are disenchanted with the politics of college life.

Roughly 18 million students were enrolled in university in the fall 2022 semester, nearly 2 million less than in the fall of 2011, according to the National Student Clearing House Research Center. From the fall of 2019 to the spring of 2023, college enrollment fell by nearly 9%.

“So many young people today are finally waking up to the reality that unless you’re going to choose a major with very high earnings, potentially college is not a good financial decision for you,” E.J. Antoni, a public finance economist at The Heritage Foundation, told the DCNF.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/13/coll ... -expensive

The number of people of college age during the years mentioned has held pretty steady so it would be accurate to compare these numbers.

Looking at the underlined sentences above, it seems people's experience with the random nature of outcomes is leading to changes.

'An economic divide that is widening': Almost a third of Americans earning $150,000 a year or more say they're living paycheck to paycheck and many rely on credit cards to close the gap

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It’s not just low-income Americans drowning under inflation and interest rates — some higher-income folks are feeling the strain on their wallets as well.

Data from a June survey conducted by personal finance software company Quicken revealed that 32% of Americans earning at least $150,000 a year are currently living paycheck to paycheck, while 36% of folks earning $50,000 to $150,000 and 55% of households earning less than that reported the same.

"Our research shows an economic divide that is widening among Americans — there is a large group of hard-working people who are still struggling financially,” Eric Dunn, CEO of Quicken, said in a press release.

“I’m troubled by the compounding problems facing this group — many of them are living paycheck to paycheck and relying on credit cards they may not be able to afford.”

In fact, according to the New York Fed, credit card balances topped $1 trillion in the second quarter of 2023.

With some Americans waiting for their next payday to afford everyday expenses, credit cards may be the only tool left at their disposal. But relying on them too heavily comes at a cost.

The Quicken survey found that 46% of higher-income groups are more dependent on their credit cards than they’ve ever been — compared to just 40% of middle- and 39% of lower-income groups. About a third of folks earning $150,000 a year or more also admitted they won’t be able to pay off their balances before the end of the year.

Higgenbotham wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:48 pm Does Greg Abbott know or understand something that few others do? I wouldn't bet against him.

Angry New Yorkers Drown Out Jerry Nadler During Chaotic Immigration Presser

NICOLE SILVERIO
MEDIA REPORTER
September 15, 2023


Angry New Yorkers shouted down Democratic New York Rep. Jerry Nadler during a presser on the city’s migrant crisis Friday.

Footage shows the angry crowd chanting and yelling behind Nadler as he told the crowd how immigration “makes America strong.” The residents held signs protesting against illegal immigration and even flipped them off.

“This is America,” one protester aggressively yelled.

Another man standing behind him can be seen flipping off with both of his hands.

“Close the freaking border!” another yelled. “Close the border!”

“Go back to your country! Go back to your own country!” one woman screamed. “You are not welcome here! You are not welcome here!” (RELATED: Eric Adams Says Migrant Crisis Will ‘Destroy New York City’)

New York is suffering from a migrant crisis as it has received over 100,000 in the past year. The city has limited resources and shelter to place the migrants, leaving hundreds to sleep on the streets.

The city has spent over $1.5 billion on the migrant crisis and has cut police budget funding to allocate more money toward the migrants being bused to the city from Texas. Democratic New York City Mayor Eric Adams warned the crisis will “destroy” the city.

This is a developing story.