vincecate wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:44 pm
Higgenbotham wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:58 pm
1. The fact that adjoining territories sell goods for dorrals and accumulate dorrals to purchase assets that pay interest;
2. The fact that the population in the territory must pay taxes in dorrals; and
3. The fact that loans in the territory and adjoining territories are made in dorrals, which creates some demand for dorrals anytime an expansion goes into reverse.
If there is a rise in the interest rate, surely the mortgages are worth less and that can be calculated. However, I don't believe that directly correlates with the value of dorrals due to these other factors.
1) The other territories don't need to keep using dorrals or accumulating dorrals.
2) Once the government thinks they can print all the dorrals they want, without problem, they start spending more than twice what they
get in taxes. So it is no longer possible to use taxes to withdraw dorrals from the market and hence support the demand.
3) Adjoining territories can default on their loans. Part of what happened to the Fed in the 1930s was that Germany and others defaulted.
1) The other territories don't need to keep using dorrals or accumulating dorrals.
Correct, they don't need to keep using dorrals. In 1968, France could have said if you renege on your agreement to redeem dollars for gold, we will no longer accept a trade imbalance. And I'm not saying that's way out there and not possible. Well, I think John would say Generation Dynamics theory would have made it essentially impossible because France would not have made that decision at that time in the cycle. But it's certainly not a decision that would have hurt France in a serious way. France may have gone through a recession due to the reduction of exports to the US.
2) Once the government thinks they can print all the dorrals they want, without problem, they start spending more than twice what they
get in taxes. So it is no longer possible to use taxes to withdraw dorrals from the market and hence support the demand.
The US is basically at that point where it really believes either it can print all the dorrals it wants with impunity or that is the best option and at the point where its tax revenue no longer is as supportive to the value of the dollar as it once was.
3) Adjoining territories can default on their loans. Part of what happened to the Fed in the 1930s was that Germany and others defaulted.
They can, and default would imply that there is not a scramble for dollars for those loans. Though it would also imply less assets on somebody's balance sheet and a potential disorderly unwinding.
I think the other issues of importance are:
1. There are more interlocking derivatives than there were in 2008.
2. There is more debt, especially private market debt and within that corporate debt, and a lot more zombie companies than existed in 2008 (zombie companies increasing exponentially). The focus seems to be on the government debt, but the private debt seems to be more the issue, and the poorer quality of the private debt, especially the corporate debt.