Re: Generational Dynamics World View News
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:58 am
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OK, so you're betting these companies will get the hell out of Dodge. You think a few broke thugs tanked up on dope are a match for a multi-billion dollar company. OK, got it.Guest wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:29 amThe police weren't defunded in the 1970s. The police kept order (just barely) in NYC, but they were not restricted from doing their jobs. They are now.My bet would be that those headquarters around Minneapolis stay right where they are. If necessary, as thing evolve, the companies will employ their own police forces and they will be brutal. Shell has a police force in Nigeria. Read up on the history of the Shell police force in Nigeria and that might be more like what the future holds than corporations abandoning their investments and locations.
How would private security groups be allowed to act like Blackwater in Iraq in Minneapolis when the police can't even police?Shell has a police force in Nigeria. Read up on the history of the Shell police force in Nigeria and that might be more like what the future holds than corporations abandoning their investments and locations.
Obviously you have some kind of agenda. Do you own commercial property? I know people who do, and they are panicking. So real estate developers in large cities.
I'm going to bet with defunded police forces,crazy liberal local governments, and hyper aggressive thugs, these companies will get the hell out of Dodge. PERIOD. (To quote a really smuck governor.)
The corporations will remain secured as long as they are solvent and the US dollar has value, etc., so that they can demand or pay for protection. As we know, the deal nowadays is corporations provide jobs but they don't pay for the full cost of their infrastructure. When the corporations can no longer make profits, that is the time to be concerned. Watch the profits of the corporations, in my opinion. As they go, so goes the cities.
3M is headquartered in a suburb of St Paul. Target's headquarters is in downtown Minneapolis but it's already moved a lot of people out to a satellite campus in the suburbs. Cargill has been in the suburbs for decades as has General Mills. Of the ones still in the core cities, many if not most no longer own their own buildings having sold them to property companies; they lease their space now. Once leases run out it wouldn't be hard to move out of the core cities. It actually would be easier now because so many people have been working from home for a while and like it.Guest wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:26 am I can read the rhetoric and understand it, but neither of you answered the questions except to say that the large corporations around Minneapolis lease office space for their headquarters, which they don't.
These are the questions:
Will the corporate headquarters pull out of the cities and surrounding suburbs? Think companies like 3M Corporation, Target, Cargill, etc., which are the largest corporations around Minneapolis.
Can these corporations afford to abandon their headquarters and build new at at time like this? They have a lot of money invested in these buildings and locations. Do they just leave? Where do they go?
If not, will the employees of these companies flee the cities knowing that no comparable job awaits them in the country?
It does mean, however, that you have a potential problem in regards to hollowed out urban cores. Pehaps someone could find value moving into one, but if that turns out not to be the case in the forseeable future, it is a lot of infrastructure to maintain. And the costs, well...Xeraphim1 wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:13 am3M is headquartered in a suburb of St Paul. Target's headquarters is in downtown Minneapolis but it's already moved a lot of people out to a satellite campus in the suburbs. Cargill has been in the suburbs for decades as has General Mills. Of the ones still in the core cities, many if not most no longer own their own buildings having sold them to property companies; they lease their space now. Once leases run out it wouldn't be hard to move out of the core cities. It actually would be easier now because so many people have been working from home for a while and like it.Guest wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:26 am I can read the rhetoric and understand it, but neither of you answered the questions except to say that the large corporations around Minneapolis lease office space for their headquarters, which they don't.
These are the questions:
Will the corporate headquarters pull out of the cities and surrounding suburbs? Think companies like 3M Corporation, Target, Cargill, etc., which are the largest corporations around Minneapolis.
Can these corporations afford to abandon their headquarters and build new at at time like this? They have a lot of money invested in these buildings and locations. Do they just leave? Where do they go?
If not, will the employees of these companies flee the cities knowing that no comparable job awaits them in the country?
This has already been identified as a problem for Manhattan with some companies stating that they're never going to bring all their employees back into the office. They've found that that can function perfectly well with remote employees. They likely will retain much smaller spaces for certain employees and meeting space for when video won't do.
Despite what the news wants to push, Minneapolis really isn't that bad with crime mostly limited to certain heavily minority areas. While some politicians have spouted out regarding defunding police, the mayor has already shot that down and there would be serious push-back from residents if they tried. Some groups are very loud but it doesn't mean they have much support.
At least here, occupancy in high rise commercial buildings has been falling for more than a decade. I attribute it to extremely poor decisions made by the city leadership which should be made obvious by the comments of our lame-brained City Council president.On the other hand, residential buildings have been in boom mode for more than 15 years now. The population of the city has been rising for a while now reversing the decline that started in the 1960's. The only areas not doing well are the heavily black districts. The Asian and Hispanic areas are doing quite well.Guest wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 11:55 am
It does mean, however, that you have a potential problem in regards to hollowed out urban cores. Pehaps someone could find value moving into one, but if that turns out not to be the case in the forseeable future, it is a lot of infrastructure to maintain. And the costs, well...
I do agree with the sentiment however that you'll ultimately see an aggressive long-term response to the recent events in the U.S., perhaps overly aggressive. Some people have suggested fully privatized policing to reduce the liability on the muni, and there's companies out there that could provide that service already. In fact I believe good old Tim Geithner from the Obama cabinent is heavily involved with one of those these days, so the "smart" money (smart in the loosest sense of the word) is already in position for it if a few legal wheels are greased.
So, no, I don't think there will be a medium-term collapse of the system, since there's a lot of money to be made in by companies providing basic services to everyone.
John J. Xenakis wrote: > Unconfirmed reports claim that Chinese soldiers crossed into
> Indian territory and unarmed Indian soldiers with barbaric
> weapons, including iron rod studded with steel nails, killing
> 20.
I didn't ignore the issue of Chinese casualties. In one article IWarren Dew wrote: > Unconfirmed reports also say 34 Chinese soldiers were killed,
> which is likely true given China never confirms casualties. his
> isn't hatred of Chinese toward Indians, but rather fearmongering
> toward Chinese by Indians and others.
> That said, I recognize that the perception is what matters here,
> not the reality.
You're absolutely right. The Indian army is not only moving troops toGuest wrote: Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:08 pm > www.india.com/news/india/ladakh-clash-f ... 63906/amp/
> This news is nearly 2 days old at the moment. I can't help but
> feel like this ups the stakes.