Re: Generational Dynamics World View News
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:01 pm
can't find itTom Mazanec wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:40 pm Just a reminder:
Mike Snyder is still posting articles about the Ukrainian Crisis on his website.
Generational theory, international history and current events
https://www.gdxforum.com/forum/
can't find itTom Mazanec wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:40 pm Just a reminder:
Mike Snyder is still posting articles about the Ukrainian Crisis on his website.
Thanks for posting those links. They were very interesting andDaKardii wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 12:07 pm > There was (allegedly) a failed coup attempt in Jordan on
> Saturday. King Abdullah's half-brother Hamzah has been placed
> under house arrest for his alleged involvement. Meanwhile there is
> speculation that Saudi Arabia and the UAE backed the coup
> plotters, although both countries are publicly siding with the
> Jordanian government.
> https://nationalinterest.org/feature/wh ... oil-181958
> https://www.alquds.co.uk/%D9%8A%D8%AF%D ... A9-%D8%A7/
> https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-new ... -1.9679847
I'm convinced that there were foreign actors involved in this plot. Specifically Saudi Arabia, which as I stated earlier was considered a possible suspect.John wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:17 pm ** 05-Apr-2021 World View: Jordan alleged coup
However, it is possible that there are non-governmental
forces outside of Jordan that would like to promote a coup or
revolution. The Jordanians are Hashemites, which was Mohammed's
tribe, while other tribes are descendants of the Umayyad tribe that
Mohammed defeated in Mecca in 630. So these tribal differences go
back a long way.
This doesn't make sense to me. Let's assume that everything you say isDaKardii wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:30 pm > I'm convinced that there were foreign actors involved in
> this plot. Specifically Saudi Arabia, which as I stated earlier
> was considered a possible suspect by high-ranking officials in the
> Jordanian government.
> Why would Saudi Arabia want Abdullah gone? Perhaps because it sees
> Abdullah as being too "independent" from the Saudi-led Sunni party
> line. In other words, the same reason behind its alleged
> involvement in the failed coup attempt in Turkey back in 2016, and
> the same reason it blockaded Qatar for 3 1/2 years.
> And why would Saudi Arabia fear an independent Jordan? Keep in
> mind that like the Persians and the Turks, the Hashemites are a
> historic enemy of the House of Saud. Indeed, Saudi Arabia's very
> existence is the result of Nejd's conquest of Hejaz, the latter
> which had previously controlled both Mecca and Medina. The king of
> Hejaz at the time? Hussein bin Ali, a Hashemite and King
> Abdullah's great-granduncle. Yes, it was the Saudis who caused the
> Hashemites to lose control of Mecca and Medina. That's not
> something to be taken lightly in context of the region's
> politics. And not only that, Hejaz was the original
> homeland of the Hashemite dynasty.
Then Jordan remains in Saudi Arabia's sphere of influence. Although it may cause Hashemite nationalists to rise up and cause Jordan to become unstable.John wrote: Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:54 pm This doesn't make sense to me. Let's assume that everything you say is
right, and the Saudi government is backing a coup. So let's assume
that the coup is successful. Then what?