12-Nov-13 World View -- Iran's desperate statement on Syria

[John]

12-Nov-13 World View -- Iran's statement on Syria shows signs of desperation

U.S. Marines land in Philippines after massive Typhoon Haiyan destruction

** 12-Nov-13 World View -- Iran's statement on Syria shows signs of desperation
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e131112



Contents:
Iran's statement on Syria shows signs of desperation
U.S. Marines land in Philippines after massive Typhoon Haiyan destruction


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Iran, Mohamed Javad Zarif,
Syria, Bashar al-Assad, Hezbollah, Saudi Arabia,
Philippines, Tacloban, Typhoon Yolanda, Typhoon Haiyan,
Typhoon Zoraida, Benigno Aquino III,
USS George Washington

[indyjonesouthere]

A Sunni-Shia conflict is better than a Muslim-Christian conflict that resulted in 9-11. Palin is right, let Allah sort them out. If they aren't fighting each other they are after everyone else, let them self destruct.

[Trevor]

This is a much more destructive war than the one in the early 1980's was. I wonder if this means that Syria will go through some sort of "First Turning Reset", either partial or complete. Having one out of 3 people displaced either internally or externally, along with the fact that many of their major cities and their economy are now in ruins as a result of this.

And they're already blaming the Typhoon on "Climate change"; how surprising.

[NoOneImportant]

indyjonesouthere wrote:

If they aren't fighting each other they are after everyone else, let them self destruct.

This dispute has been going on for over 1400 years, so a definitive final conflict isn't likely. That said, both sides now have the mechanized means to disburse wide spread destruction on a scale never before available to either side in the Middle East.

The thought of a mutual destruction of both sides in any Shia-Sunni conflict, as desirable as that might seem, is not likely. Presuming that the conflict can be maintained as a local conflict - an assumption that easily may not hold, there are several possible outcomes:

Stalemate - not likely in a localized conflict because we are talking the availability of really big money for the purchase of almost any armament currently available world wide, including nuclear weapons. Restraint on one parties part or the other would be needed for this to take palace, a restraint not in evidence in any Arab combatant in any Middle East conflict since 1948.

Shia victory, Sunni's are decimated - also not likely as Sunni's are widely geographically disbursed, including Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia, et al. But great Sunni destruction can be expected in the Middle East - particularly Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, Iran, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia - and prospectively north Africa. Should the Iranians believe that the Saudi are responsible for the terror in Iran - what they now fear - at some point Iran must respond in kind with a terror campaign to disrupt Saudi Arabia. Such a campaign will be targeted to destroy the "stability" within Saudi that will make the continued flow of oil and money impossible. The alleged Iranian cyber attack on 30,000 Saudi computers last year was fool hearty on the part of the Iranians, as it assured a Saudi ire, and response, and commitment that the same never happen again.

If Saudi Arabia becomes a terror sponsoring state, as indicated by their purported control - as implied in a visit to Putin in Moscow by Saudi prince Bandar - of Caucasus terror forces operating in Southern Russia, then that terror effort will be directed toward punishing Iran, Russia, Hezbollah. Once terror is decided upon as a weapon by Saudi Arabia, it becomes difficult to control, as by definition, terror is an action of subterfuge. The logical extension of unrestrained terror is chaos.

Shia are decimated in the Middle east, including Hesbollah, Iran, and Assad's Syria - This is certainly the fear of Iran, and explains many of the "liberalizing" actions taken by the Iranians in recent weeks. This is the most probable outcome - while not all Shia will be destroyed, there will be a blood bathe, and there will be hundreds of thousands killed. The Iranians have apparently realized, a bit late, that there is no longer any restraining American hand that will impede the Saudis well financed retribution for the 30,000 PC event of last year.