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Weird one...

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Tom Mazanec wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:32 pm

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/no ... onouns-law
So if I worked in a group home in California (as I worked in one in Ohio for 18 years) and I refused to lie (which is a Mortal Sin) by using a female pronoun for a man (albeit mutilated) who says he is a female I can be imprisoned by the nonreligious?
Interesting one. Glad to have it on the other coast. I would think you ought to be be immune if you were telling the truth as you saw it. On the other hand, if your motive were to insult and demean an oppressed minority, I could see the point of the law. I could see both principles being relevant in the same case. Can somebody be forced to insult and disrespect someone by what they understand of God? From the principle of the Good Samaritan, one would think a Christian ought to both love his neighbor and not lie, and would be in quite a pickle. Just as glad the CA Supremes have to decide this one, not me. At any rate, any God I worshipped would forgive a white lie in the name of showing respect and equality to others. On the other hand, the God worshiped by a racist might place a high value on truth as a reason to oppress a minority.

Weird point, can the law or the legislatures that passed it be called nonreligious?
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The Chips Act?

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FullMoon wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:55 am
Please comment on the Chips Act whether this could will force their hand in decision making. From what I've gathered, it's something akin to a total denial of their ability to import higher end semiconductor and any technology or tools used in this technology. They'll be curtailed from military and industrial capacity almost completely? Apparently they cannot produce any higher end chips and import most everything related. Blockading the island would be a tit for tat. They're control of import/export from the island would undermine the industry in like kind until a compromise is found or a fight is begun.?
I have not given a lot of thought to the Chips Act. I can see advanced micro possessing technology as being something considered critical. One would not want to export it and in the process lose the ability to make ones own chips. Globalism is collapsing, with each country not as willing to depend on others for anything critical. I am also not overly found of restricting free trade. I am also not fond of the Chinese habit of threatening violence at the drop of a hat. Responding to an administrative law with a military blockade seems not to be a tit for tat.

Has this one become something loudly resulting in diplomatic tiffs?

Frankly, Apple and other companies have been taking advantage of cheap asian labor. If advance technology cannot be imported to Asia in order to be assembled into final products, I would expect Apple and others would complain loudly. Earlier in the year I bought a Apple M1 Ultra Studio computer with Studio Displays. For a bit I was overly using the tracking option, watching my computer move from China, to Hong Kong, to Taiwan, to Alaska. I wouldn't think the governments of anyone involved would want to mess this up. Not that I much care. For now, the system I have is quite adequate.

I would also think China is in an tricky enough economic situation, many say pending collapse. They over built their domestic housing markets, and have many ghost cities as a result. The foreign trade part of the economy is a good chunk of what they have left. I wouldn't think a rational actor would want to shut that off. Then again, who said the CCP was rational?

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Israel Destroys Iranian Drone-Making Plant In Syria
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FullMoon wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:25 pm
Maybe because Jews are considered to be successful in economic and financial ability, when people feel financially threatened, as they do now, they become easiest group to demonize and blame. We're already getting fractured along fault lines of belief and even science is on the rocks. The feeling of ever greater conflict is pervasive and old hatreds are rearing their heads. Globally. Hatred is a mindset and energy in and of itself. A fire that will consume everything it can.
This is the low brow view of it, not taking data into consideration. Why? This group is overrepresented in nearly every sector (of influence) and it's not just that (which wouldn't matter otherwise) but the methods utilized are injurious and chaos causing to the host nation. If you need me to list all of these, you aren't paying attention, and haven't researched the topic with an open mind - you've come to the conclusion before analyzing the current day, or history which proves it. The propaganda and narrative is that it's always the other groups' fault (the one they came to that welcomed them), not the one that's been kicked out of the prior nation 100s of times. Only people distracted by the lies and the desire to think in a certain way would not see this, which is most people.

The best part of the cancellation of West is that it proves this point entirely.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:09 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:25 pm
Maybe because Jews are considered to be successful in economic and financial ability, when people feel financially threatened, as they do now, they become easiest group to demonize and blame. We're already getting fractured along fault lines of belief and even science is on the rocks. The feeling of ever greater conflict is pervasive and old hatreds are rearing their heads. Globally. Hatred is a mindset and energy in and of itself. A fire that will consume everything it can.
This is the low brow view of it, not taking data into consideration. Why? This group is overrepresented in nearly every sector (of influence) and it's not just that (which wouldn't matter otherwise) but the methods utilized are injurious and chaos causing to the host nation. If you need me to list all of these, you aren't paying attention, and haven't researched the topic with an open mind - you've come to the conclusion before analyzing the current day, or history which proves it. The propaganda and narrative is that it's always the other groups' fault (the one they came to that welcomed them), not the one that's been kicked out of the prior nation 100s of times. Only people distracted by the lies and the desire to think in a certain way would not see this, which is most people.

The best part of the cancellation of West is that it proves this point entirely.
Perhaps you believe there's a reason for hatred.
Hatred is an emotion devoid of reason.
In direct contradiction to most teachings of goodness.

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FullMoon wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:44 pm
Cool Breeze wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:09 pm
FullMoon wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:25 pm
Maybe because Jews are considered to be successful in economic and financial ability, when people feel financially threatened, as they do now, they become easiest group to demonize and blame. We're already getting fractured along fault lines of belief and even science is on the rocks. The feeling of ever greater conflict is pervasive and old hatreds are rearing their heads. Globally. Hatred is a mindset and energy in and of itself. A fire that will consume everything it can.
This is the low brow view of it, not taking data into consideration. Why? This group is overrepresented in nearly every sector (of influence) and it's not just that (which wouldn't matter otherwise) but the methods utilized are injurious and chaos causing to the host nation. If you need me to list all of these, you aren't paying attention, and haven't researched the topic with an open mind - you've come to the conclusion before analyzing the current day, or history which proves it. The propaganda and narrative is that it's always the other groups' fault (the one they came to that welcomed them), not the one that's been kicked out of the prior nation 100s of times. Only people distracted by the lies and the desire to think in a certain way would not see this, which is most people.

The best part of the cancellation of West is that it proves this point entirely.
Perhaps you believe there's a reason for hatred.
Hatred is an emotion devoid of reason.
In direct contradiction to most teachings of goodness.
I don't see the link or anywhere I am supporting "hatred". The good hates the evil though, of course - as a concept. Remember, be thoughtful, not just prop up emotional tropes without thinking them through.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the tactic you are trying to get across here is suggest I'm advocating hatred. Quite the contrary, I am explaining what's going on and has been going on. The chaos creators hold the real hatred, if there is such a thing regarding the way you are utilizing that word.

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Teachings of Goodness

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FullMoon wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:44 pm
Perhaps you believe there's a reason for hatred.
Hatred is an emotion devoid of reason.
In direct contradiction to most teachings of goodness.
Hatred (with conflict and war) does have a reason. If you hate your opponent, if you win the resulting conflict, you pass on your genes and the other guys don't. For a long time war was cost effective. In a time of nukes, proxy war, insurgent war and sanctions, one would hope that it is not. Not all autocratic dictators have figured it out, though. They are still initiating war, though Putin forgot to stir up hatred first.

I have argued that reason suggests war is no longer cost effective. Over the millennia, various philosophical and religious thinkers have argued similarly, most 'teachings of goodness' as you say. However, one of the main parts of Generational Dynamics is that many culture do work up a hatred of their enemies as part of plans of dominance and war. Racist factions as well. The instinct of man is to hate, oppress or destroy those who are different. Aggressive leaders have taken advantage of this trait.

I agree with the results of 'most teachings of goodness', but there is a reason why for most of man's time hatred and conflict were commonly practiced. If you weren't good at those things, you did not pass on your genes. Personally, I think it is a time for a change.

John has banned anti semitism from this board. Applause. Agreement. But should we disagree with all similar hatreds? Blacks? Latinos? Asians? Nazi? Non Nazi? I think I can suggest what most teachings of goodness would say, almost by definition. 'Love thy neighbor.' 'Do as you will, but harm none.' It would be a bit odd though for the Generational Dynamics site to take a stance against one of Generational Dynamics driving factors.

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1 hour ago - World
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Why fears of a Russian ‘false flag’ attack are on the rise
BY ELLEN MITCHELL - 10/26/22 6:00 AM ET
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Re: Teachings of Goodness

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Bob Butler wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:55 pm
John has banned anti semitism from this board. Applause. Agreement. But should we disagree with all similar hatreds? Blacks? Latinos? Asians? Nazi? Non Nazi? I think I can suggest what most teachings of goodness would say, almost by definition. 'Love thy neighbor.' 'Do as you will, but harm none.' It would be a bit odd though for the Generational Dynamics site to take a stance against one of Generational Dynamics driving factors.
You use terms, like all lefties do, but can't define them or distort the meaning. That's why all of your posts are nonsense. That's how the left deceives. They first corrupt and then get reactions to bastardized terms. Example? "Anti-semitism". You can't even define it. Replace the word "whiteness" or white supremacy" in all headlines of the media these days with "jews" and what do you get? Calls from the ADL. So your hypocrisy betrays you. It's OK to talk disparagingly about other groups (not even true) but you can't criticize your masters, which is the point and the point has been proven.

I don't recall you posting on your candidate calling people "deplorables" and worse. I wonder why. Checkmate.

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Cool Breeze wrote:
Wed Oct 26, 2022 5:57 pm
Bob Butler wrote:
Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:55 pm
John has banned anti semitism from this board. Applause. Agreement. But should we disagree with all similar hatreds? Blacks? Latinos? Asians? Nazi? Non Nazi? I think I can suggest what most teachings of goodness would say, almost by definition. 'Love thy neighbor.' 'Do as you will, but harm none.' It would be a bit odd though for the Generational Dynamics site to take a stance against one of Generational Dynamics driving factors.
You use terms, like all lefties do, but can't define them or distort the meaning. That's why all of your posts are nonsense. That's how the left deceives. They first corrupt and then get reactions to bastardized terms. Example? "Anti-semitism". You can't even define it. Replace the word "whiteness" or white supremacy" in all headlines of the media these days with "jews" and what do you get? Calls from the ADL. So your hypocrisy betrays you. It's OK to talk disparagingly about other groups (not even true) but you can't criticize your masters, which is the point and the point has been proven.

I don't recall you posting on your candidate calling people "deplorables" and worse. I wonder why. Checkmate.
It is not so much that I can’t define a term, but that you refuse to accept the definition. Man has an instinct to hate, oppress and control others. Leaders have taken advantage of it over the years. Anti semitism was practiced by Hitler’s crowd among others, but other groups have been victims as well. Blacks by the KKK. The Chinese by the Japanese at the Marco Polo bridge. You can refuse to see the effect, to understand the definition, but can you really not understand the history of such events? Do you have to deny the reality of the definitions for your wild theorizing to be true?

Jews have mostly not tried to oppress others. They were not the dominant group in any territory for years, not since Roman times. Since 1948 they have been dominant in Israel, and started to oppress the Palestinians, but that doesn’t much affect most Jews here. The Whites in America have been dominant for centuries. Most newly come immigrant groups, not to mention the natives, have had problems of some sort, blacks being lynched, natives keeping lands, asians bringing their women over, Irish finding jobs. You swap the two terms of Jew and white and find one headline is false, the other true. Of course the response is different.

I did make a comment on Hillary calling people deplorable, namely that what she said was not politic, but was absolutely correct. Not sure if the comment was on this board or another similar site. At any rate, how does that statement involve a checkmate? How does willfully refusing a definition without providing an alternative get us anywhere?

At any rate, groups of men tend to hate other groups of men. This tendency to hate the other is at the core of Generational Dynamics. This is against most ‘teachings of goodness’. I understood John’s declaration against anti semitism as a good thing, and only wonder why he chose that particular prejudice and not others. Did you not understand his declaration?

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