Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

[Higgenbotham]

From my perspective, the Agricultural Age was a mess. The elites through the feudal system or slavery controlled the common people. What changed was that the English trained everyman in first bows, then in muskets. Everyman discovered suddenly that he had rights, that exploiting him wasn’t as easy. Then, as other nations had to counter the English, suddenly their everyman had rights too. It remained true that after a major war, no one wanted to fight another one while memory of the old remained. Thus, we had a crisis roughly every four score and seven years.

But it remained the common man overthrowing the oppression of the elites.

Now you can try to tell another story. You can portray the autocratic elites as heroes, and cheer on folks like Louis XIV, Hitler, Stalin and Mao. You can be in favor of oppression. I just don’t buy it.

There was a one-off fossil fuel energy subsidy that gave the human race the luxury to overthrow some oppression, as well as a lot of other things, but that is ending. No, "green energy" is not going to save us. Like the Guest said, brace for impact.

[aeden]

Correct as seen basically discussed in Fri May 22, 2009 7:56 pm
This is what I'm thinking will happen--the deflationary jolt.
My best guess is that it will be seen in August (in other words before Fall) which will increase the shock value.
I will it leave it at the race to mud huts. Alinsky bread lines in major cities are starting locally in BISH core centers.
Node structures will be appropriated by design.

[Higgenbotham]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... gniter-rhr

I'm not sure if this will be accessible to non-subscribers, John.

The UK gave sanctuary to a lot of Indians/Pakistanis who had been forced out of places like Uganda and Kenya. Looks like it is starting here too...

Places like Uganda and Kenya were on the periphery and that got impacted first. The periphery breaks down rather slowly at first. Then, as noted, the Indians/Pakistanis found themselves in London due to the breakdown of the periphery. Capital cities of the hegemon or closely related. Now those cities are collapsing suddenly and violently. As the one-off fossil fuel energy subsidy ends, people will fight like cats in a sack. I think someone on The Oil Drum said that many years ago.

[aeden]

William did not return to Kenya as we noted his homeland. The other acquittance from Algeria did not either.
BISH bread lines are here now.

[Bob Butler]

This happened in Handsworth, Birmingham about a dozen years ago. Full-blown race riots between black and Asian ( mainly Pakistani ) youths. One lad died.

Multi-cultism doesn’t work, and as in places like Portland Oregon, Asian shopkeepers are the new Jews.
To see how roughly equal numbers of different cultures don’t co-exist, look no further than Bosnia where Orthodox Serbs, Catholic Croats and Muslim Bosnians had a bloody tribal war that required British and US action.

We are already moving towards ghettos and the indigenous population is moving out of various towns and cities as the incomers assert their customs.

As Generational Dynamics pointed out, there is an instinct among humans to hate, oppress and kill those that are different. Any attempt at a multi cultural environment involves mixing those that are different. Sometimes it works without conflict, sometimes it doesn't. Another observation is that cultures try to expand, try to control other cultures, too often succeeding and creating a multi cultural environment. Bosnia stands as an example.

In the Agricultural and Industrial Ages, it was considered the thing to do to increase one's territory and power by taking land and creating a multi cultural environment. At the same time a tension developed between the conquerors and their victims. In the Information Age such conquest is frowned upon, while at the same time immigration by those who don't believe in their native culture has resulted in many multi cultural environments.

This certainly isn't going to stop instantly. Slapping down invasions will help. Rule of law that respects all cultures equally and fairly helps. Expecting an instant solution, for humans not to hate those that are different, is very unlikely to say the least.

Last night I caught an anti quake and tsunami video. One theme was building towers along the Pacific Northwest coast to give people somewhere to go above the expected tsunami. These towers need to be close enough to be reached in the 15 minutes before the tsunami is expected, and large enough to harbor the population that lives in the 15 minute range. One such tower was built by a native tribe. They built it large enough to shelter the adjacent white community, one community helping another. This is the sort of thing that should be encouraged. This shows that the instinct to love one's neighbor can honorably challenge the instinct to hate one who is different.

Obviously, some will give honor more to the hate.

[London exile]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... gniter-rhr

I'm not sure if this will be accessible to non-subscribers, John.

The UK gave sanctuary to a lot of Indians/Pakistanis who had been forced out of places like Uganda and Kenya. Looks like it is starting here too...

Places like Uganda and Kenya were on the periphery and that got impacted first. The periphery breaks down rather slowly at first. Then, as noted, the Indians/Pakistanis found themselves in London due to the breakdown of the periphery. Capital cities of the hegemon or closely related. Now those cities are collapsing suddenly and violently. As the one-off fossil fuel energy subsidy ends, people will fight like cats in a sack. I think someone on The Oil Drum said that many years ago.

Issues between Asians and black communities has been known for some time, years. Watched a documentary years ago on this. Yet our governments of what ever persuasion continue to ignore it so we now have this growing problem with masses of the middle east coming in to add to the mix.

Multiculturalism, what joy.

[aeden]

It was so bad we self-censored the atrocities here also of what was done to even the extremely poor farmers.
Worse than the snuff films segments in time when the cannibal warlords ruled.

[Guest]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/0 ... gniter-rhr

I'm not sure if this will be accessible to non-subscribers, John.

The UK gave sanctuary to a lot of Indians/Pakistanis who had been forced out of places like Uganda and Kenya. Looks like it is starting here too...

So is the local council going to confiscate the shops from Indian owners, as happened in Uganda, or is the council advocating that blacks buy them and the Indians “go back where they came from”?
I’d love to know.
If the black people in Peckham don’t like Indian shops, then why don’t they go to non-Indian shops? If black people avoided them, they’d probably struggle to survive there.
I manage without going to the Polish supermarket in town, not because I don’t like Poles (love them actually) but because I don’t particularly want the specialist stuff they sell.

[Guest]

Peckham protests illustrate the redundancy of ‘Bame’
Tensions between non-white minorities have been persistently ignored

Following footage circulating online of a black woman accused of theft being physically restrained by a male Asian-heritage shopkeeper in the south-east London district of Peckham, the matter of community cohesion in England’s diverse inner cities has once again been thrust into the spotlight.

Tense community relations between elements of Britain’s wider Asian and black populations are nothing new. The 2005 Birmingham riots — specifically in the relatively deprived Lozells and Handsworth areas — were primarily between people of Pakistani origin and Black Caribbean heritage. The riots were sparked following rumours that a teenage black girl had allegedly been gang-raped by a group of Pakistani-heritage men in a beauty parlour. The unsubstantiated whispers were presented as fact by two pirate radio stations, contributing towards a major escalation. The riots were connected to two fatalities: 23-year-old Isaiah Young-Sam and teenager Aaron James.

However, much like south-east London in the present, there were simmering tensions between Asian-origin business owners and local black residents in Birmingham. The acquisition of many local businesses by Asian-origin entrepreneurs had reportedly unsettled members of African-Caribbean communities, and this was exacerbated by complaints of mistreatment against Asian-heritage business owners by black customers. Those who ran the enterprises responded by accusing members of the African-Caribbean community of envy for their socioeconomic progress and ownership of assets. More serious allegations included theft, with one Pakistani-heritage shopkeeper referring to black people as “the lowest of the low”.

Fast forward to September 2023 and virtually identical dynamics have taken root in south-east London — racial friction based on socioeconomic status and business ownership, a breakdown of shopkeeper-customer relations along ethnic lines, and a fundamental lack of neighbourhood policing enforcement to maintain public order. In places such as Peckham, the local black population comfortably outnumbers the Asian one, yet a significant number of small-to-medium-sized enterprises which cater to the former, wider demographic are owned by the latter.

Social interactions which could optimistically be viewed as opportunities to build trust and mutual respect between groups have instead been rendered toxic by an intensifying competition of resources, ethnic prejudice, and growing business-customer resentment. This is worsened by the absence of a well-respected model of neighbourhood policing which covers areas with a high concentration of street shops.

The latest events in Peckham highlight the utterly redundant nature of the “Bame” acronym, which tends to mask the reality that some of the sharpest social fault lines in modern Britain do not involve the white-British mainstream at all. A report published in August 2020 by Hope Not Hate found that twice as many so-called “Bame” respondents agreed (40%) than disagreed that there is more tension between Britain’s minority communities, when compared with those between white and non-white populations.

This was followed by a February 2021 HJS-ICM study which found that black British respondents were more likely to have an unfavourable view of Pakistani-, Bangladeshi-, and Indian-heritage people (11.2%, 11.1%, and 8.7% respectively) than white Britons (7.9%).

While apparently progressive politicians in the inner cities continue to repeat empty platitudes such as “diversity is our strength”, the failure to integrate ethnically diverse communities carries significant risks to public order. This threat is further complicated by ethnic differences in socio-economic status and the de facto decriminalisation of low-level crime in many urban areas.

Social and economic tensions in Peckham between non-white communities does not constitute a recent phenomenon. Rather, these serve as yet another reminder of the complexities of modern Britain and the fact that diversity is by no means an unadulterated good. As it stands, far too many in positions of national and local leadership are sleeping at the wheel.

Several journalists in the UK have blamed (and I kid you not) 'White Supremacy' for the violence between blacks and Pakistanis/Indians (which are called 'Asians in the UK).

This is where the real violence is already erupting. In England its blacks vs. Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Koreans, Chinese, Eastern Europeans, etc.

In America its blacks fighting with every race except for white liberals (which blacks happily victimize).

Source: https://unherd.com/thepost/peckham-prot ... ame-label/

I thought only Whites could be racist…I wonder how critical race theory squares this?

All she did was steal and assault the Pakistani guy and the BLM try to claim it was his fault.
Truly this Country of ours has given into the BLM mobs - now they will never back down and the Police will be too woke to do anything about them.
London will become a no go area for white people and Pakistanis and Indians will leave - closing their shops for good as they go.
look at San Francisco to see what is coming in Labours new land where the BLM Mob rule the streets day and night.

[New guest]

Bell curve.