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[Guest]

They will not end up in Lebanon. You obviously do not understand the situation there at all. Nor will hey end up in Jordan. Most likely, they will stay in Gaza, the ones that survive

The Palestinians, if ethically cleansed, will end up in Western Europe! Millions of them. Add that to the million of Arabs already there and you have the next Caliphate. The Jews will be expelled from Western Europe. (It's only fair.)

Americans are dangerous fantasists, and it is the rest of the world that suffers because of it.

Separation is the only viable solution at this point.

I think my posts show that I understand the situation as well as anyone.

Why not have them go to Europe? The Europeans have been importing Syrians/Tunisians/Algerians/etc for decades. Why not a few million more.

Most Jews were already expelled from Europe. Does WW2 and the Nazi's ring a bell with you? At some point, given conditions in Europe, I don't doubt that the rest of them will migrate to Israel voluntarily.

The USA has been the savior of the world for over a hundred years. Without it, despotism, either by Monarchs or Dictators, would have prevailed long ago. The US Constitution has been the model of democracy for the world since its establishment over 200 years ago.

Where would the world be now if, for example, the Caliphate had become the dominant force? We wouldn't even have electricity and would be living with 1600's standard of living. If that. Even worse problems with Hitler/Stalin types.

You see, this is why America is being completely destroyed and its people broken over the wheel and humiliated. America has destroyed numerous countries and peoples, and now God is destroying you.

You see how that works?

[Navigator]

I'm sure we are all deeply touched by your, no doubt, heart felt concern for the Palestinians, or the "Palestinians" as you refer to them. Your supposed concern only partially masks the genocidal plans you have for them.

Aren't you supposed to Christian?

Or are you "Christian"?

Relocation is not Genocide. Genocide is doing things like beheading babies. Anyone, Christians included, are allowed to defend themselves and their families.

Nazi Germany engaged in Genocide - attempting to kill everyone of a particular race. It is what the Arabs would do if they got control of Israel. They have repeatedly stated this.

USA killed LOTS of civilians in WW2, justified by Acts of War perpetrated by the Nazi Germans and Japanese Imperialists. Israel at this point is similarly justified.

[Navigator]

You see, this is why America is being completely destroyed and its people broken over the wheel and humiliated. America has destroyed numerous countries and peoples, and now God is destroying you.

You see how that works?

USA's problems are serious, but the rest of the world is even worse.

USA has provided help and opportunity. Many have decided not to take advantage of it, such as Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan. Others have, such as Germany, Japan, and South Korea.

Most of the problems in the world are a result of people rejecting God and basic morality. This is worldwide.

In Arab countries, having been there and interacted with the people, it is as bad or worse than Europe.

[Guest]

I'm sure we are all deeply touched by your, no doubt, heart felt concern for the Palestinians, or the "Palestinians" as you refer to them. Your supposed concern only partially masks the genocidal plans you have for them.

Aren't you supposed to Christian?

Or are you "Christian"?

Relocation is not Genocide. Genocide is doing things like beheading babies. Anyone, Christians included, are allowed to defend themselves and their families.

Nazi Germany engaged in Genocide - attempting to kill everyone of a particular race. It is what the Arabs would do if they got control of Israel. They have repeatedly stated this.

USA killed LOTS of civilians in WW2, justified by Acts of War perpetrated by the Nazi Germans and Japanese Imperialists. Israel at this point is similarly justified.

No babies were beheaded. That is an Israeli lie.

The language being used to describe Palestinians is genocidal

I covered the Rwandan genocide as a reporter. The language spilling out of Israel after the butchery of the Hamas attacks is eerily familiar


Tonnes of stories easily exposing your gross distortions.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -genocidal

Some highlights from your kind and angelic Israeli friends.

The language being used to describe Palestinians is genocidal

I covered the Rwandan genocide as a reporter. The language spilling out of Israel after the butchery of the Hamas attacks is eerily familiar

Mon 16 Oct 2023 12.39 BST
Israel’s president, Isaac Herzog, set the tone as he spoke about how far to assign guilt for the worst single atrocity against Jews in his country’s history.

“It’s an entire nation out there that is responsible. This rhetoric about civilians not aware, not involved, it’s absolutely not true. They could’ve risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime,” said Herzog.

In different ways, the sentiment that the Palestinians are collectively responsible for the actions of Hamas in killing of about 1,300 Israelis and abduction of 199 – and therefore deserve what is coming to them – has been echoed far beyond Israel’s borders.

In the US, Senator Lindsey Graham called for the wholesale destruction of Gaza.


“We are in a religious war here. I’m with Israel. Do whatever the hell you have to do to defend yourself. Level the place,” he told Fox News.

In the UK, the editor of the Jewish Chronicle, Jake Wallis Simons, took a different tack in generalising guilt by writing that “much of Muslim culture is in the grip of a death cult that sacralises bloodshed” before deleting his tweet after a backlash.

Ariel Kallner, a member of the Israeli parliament for Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, had the answer. He demanded a repeat of the mass expulsion of Arabs in 1948 known to Palestinians as the Nakba or Catastrophe.

“Right now, one goal: Nakba! A Nakba that will overshadow the Nakba of 1948,” he said.

It remains to be seen if that is Israel’s plan after it ordered more than one million people to get out of northern Gaza as the military prepares further attacks in addition to the bombing and shelling that has already killed 2,700 Palestinians, including 700 children.

But the dehumanising language spilling out of Israel and from some of its supporters abroad is of a type heard at other times and places that helped create a climate in which terrible crimes take place.

The shocking ways in which Hamas butchered Israeli civilians, including small children, and then celebrated the slaughter reminded me of reporting the Rwandan genocide three decades ago. Hutu militiamen revelled in the killing of around 800,000 Tutsis, including neighbours and children, in unimaginably horrific ways. Even years later in prison, some were unrepentant.

The aftermath of the Hamas attack is also reminiscent of the 1994 genocide in language used not just about the murderers but Palestinians in general, although not for the first time.


Those who led and carried out the Rwandan genocide often cast it in the language of Tutsis as outsiders and interlopers, and the killing as an act of self-defence. If we don’t do it to them, they will do it to us.

Tutsis were debased as “cockroaches”, a word also invoked by a then chief of the Israeli defence forces to describe Palestinians. Other Israeli political, military and religious leaders have at different times described Palestinians as “a cancer”, “vermin”, and called for them to be “annihilated”. They are frequently portrayed as backward and a burden on the country.

While Israel has not revealed its plans for Gaza, Palestinians naturally fear another ethnic cleansing of the kind Kallner is pushing for given their history. Palestine’s envoy to the United Nations, Riyad Mansour, has accused Israel of dehumanisation and actions in Gaza in recent days that “are nothing less than genocidal”.

It’s a long way from Rwanda and any comparisons will seem outrageous to some. But as those pressing for news organisations to call Hamas terrorists implicitly acknowledge, language matters.

A prominent Israeli journalist and radio presenter, David Mizrahy Verthaim, has called for wholesale bloodletting.

“We need a disproportionate response … If all the captives are not returned immediately, turn the strip into a slaughterhouse. If a hair falls from their head - execute security prisoners. Violate any norm, on the way to victory,” he wrote on X.

Others are looser in their language.

When Israel’s defence minister, Yoav Gallant, ordered a “complete siege” of the Gaza Strip with “no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed”, he said: “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

Perhaps Gallant only meant Hamas but he didn’t say so and that left a lot of leeway for those who would go further.

In an echo of the US after 9/11, the Israel Defence Forces posted on X: “You either stand with Israel or you stand with terrorism”. Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted: “Anyone that is pro-Palestinian is pro-Hamas.”

That was a sentiment that led the US into wars most Americans now regret, but it was a mentality that also led American soldiers to commit war crimes.

Some of these statements might be no more than lashing out in the heat of the moment as a natural reaction to a shocking atrocity. There is certainly some of that. But in Israel, they fall on ground made fertile by decades of discourse dehumanising of Palestinians.

For years, Israeli leaders have advocated ethnic cleansing, euphemistically called “transfer”, with a discourse that portrays Palestinians as a fake people with no history that matters. In 1989, Netanyahu lamented that Israel missed the opportunity presented by global attention on China’s repression of pro-democracy protests in Tiananmen square “to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the (occupied) territories”.


Opinion polls show that significant numbers of Israelis view Arabs as “dirty”, “primitive”, and as not valuing human life. Generations of Israeli school children have been imbued with the idea that Arabs are interlopers and merely tolerated through the beneficence of Israel.

A 2003 study of Israeli textbooks by the Hebrew University in Jerusalem showed Arabs are principally depicted “with a camel, in an Ali Baba dress”.

“They describe Arabs as vile and deviant and criminal, people who don’t pay taxes, people who live off the state, people who don’t want to develop. The only representation is as refugees, primitive farmers and terrorists. You never see a Palestinian child or doctor or teacher or engineer or modern farmer,” the study said.

In 2002 during the second intifada, the Tel Aviv newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth published a letter by Israeli children titled: “Dear soldiers, please kill a lot of Arabs”. The paper said dozens of such letters were sent by schoolchildren.

Some of those same children are now enforcing the occupation in the West Bank where Israeli settlers have largely had a free hand to drive Palestinians off their land and out of their villages, and sometimes to beat and kill. And some will be headed into Gaza.

Your kind won't get away with it.

[Guest]

USA killed LOTS of civilians in WW2, justified by Acts of War perpetrated by the Nazi Germans and Japanese Imperialists. Israel at this point is similarly justified.

Not even close.

The constant comparisons to Hitler and the Nazis have been so overused as to have lost true meaning.

You mean like when the Americans murdered at least a million Iraqis after 9/11 because of Saddam's "connections to Bin Laden and the attack on the twin towers"?

America has zero credibility.

[Guest]

Most of the problems in the world are a result of people rejecting God and basic morality. This is worldwide.

America is run by degenerates. You have trannies in your presidential cabinet and have legalized hard drugs. Your beauty pageant queens have male genitals and your five-year-olds have drag queen story hours. Americans are insane perverts led by a perverted and debased family of degenerates who smoke crack in the White House. Who are Americans to lecture anyone about morality? I don't see most of Europe crazy like America, except for maybe England, and they have had a screw lose since they lost India.

Please, keep prattling on about how America is the world's moral beacon.

[John]

** 17-Oct-2023 World View: History of Hamas

You don't read my posts. Most are
censored though, which is what the truth
gets you these days.

Reuters/Ipsos Survey: Israel Hamas War

Americans want to help civilians in Gaza
get out of harm's way and support for
the U.S. supporting Israel's position
has risen since the 2014 conflict with
Hamas.


Washington DC, October 16, 2023 — A new
Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that two-thirds
of Americans report following the
situation in Israel and Gaza closely,
with about one in three Americans
following the situation very closely
(30%). About half of Americans say that
Hamas is most responsible for the
current conflict and four in five
Americans view Hamas as a terrorist
organization. More than three in five
Americans view Israel favorably, and
support for Israel's position is up from
the 2014 war between Israel and
Hamas. Four in five Americans say that
civilians fleeing Gaza should be allowed
to flee to a safe country, and about
four in five Americans say Americans
diplomats should be working on a plan to
allow civilians fleeing Gaza to move to
a safe country.


https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/reutersipso ... -hamas-war

Are you going to, or have you reported
on how Israel created and funded Hamas?
This is easy to find and verify - you
can find Netanyahu quotes about it
everywhere. It shows a lot of the
confusion regarding evaluation of the
entire situation.

You could answer this question yourself
by doing some actual research.

Like most Gen-Zers, you're too lazy to
do any actual research. Instead, you'd
rather you'd rather just lie in bed most
of the day, and then take pot shots
without evidence at other people and
call it "truth" when it's actually total
nonsense.

There have been young people protesting
in cities around the world, carrying
signs like "Gas the Jews!" Are you
among them?

Here are three articles on the subject
that you raised. You could have gotten
off your ass and found them and posted
links to them yourself. That, however,
would have required an actual effort.

**** The Business Standard, October 17, 2023

https://www.tbsnews.net/hamas-israel-wa ... -it-718378

How Israel went from helping 'create'
Hamas to bombing it

Hamas has roots watered by Israeli
funding, former military governor of
Gaza admits


**** Pakistan Express Tribune, May 30, 2021

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2302309/ho ... eate-hamas

How and why Israel helped create Hamas?

Not many people are aware of the fact
that it was Israel which had helped the
creation of Hamas as a counter to PLO

Dr Moonis Ahmar May 30, 2021


**** The Intercept, Feb 19, 2018

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/ham ... -conflict/

Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping
Create Hamas to Bombing It

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right?
But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video
on blowback, Israeli officials admit
they helped start the group.

Mehdi Hasan, Dina Sayedahmed
February 19 2018, 7:00 a.m.

[Guest]

The Times of Israel, Jerusalem Post, etc, all have had stories about Netanyahu propping up Hamas to keep the Palestinians divided. A cynical and toxic policy that has backfired spectacularly.

[FullMoon]

The Communists are ramping up the information warfare. We're very close to the Dark Side making a thrust in hopes of eliminating the Beacon of Light. Yeah sure, it's barely emitting much these days, in part because of generational degeneration. But everyone knows who the good team and bad team are. Those who don't are probably on the bad team

[DT Subscriber]

At this point, I believe the only solution is to move the people out of Gaza and somewhere less dangerous to Israel. South Lebanon is probably the only viable solution. From there they can move/assimilate into northern Arab lands, or elsewhere. Hopefully somewhere where they can get out from under the control of Hamas/Hezbollah/PLO/Arab Leadership, who think nothing of using them as cannon fodder.

Germans are never going back to Silesia. "Palestinians" are never going to reclaim Israeli land, and, frankly, the recent attrocities in Israel are going to cost them Gaza as well.

No, millions of Palestinians are coming to Europe. not Lebanon. There is nothing viable about Lebanon. There are coming here.

Europe should take in the one million people trying to flee Gaza if it cares “about human rights so much”, a senior Egyptian official reportedly told a European counterpart.

“You want us to take one million people? Well, I am going to send them to Europe. You care about human rights so much – well, you take them,” the unidentified official said.

The comment, first reported by the Financial Times, was made amid media reports suggesting the Egyptian government is categorically refusing to accept the resettlement of Palestinian refugees in northern Sinai.

This comes as European Council President Charles Michel warned the conflict could have “major security consequences” for Europe, with a “risk of onward migratory waves” to the continent if not handled with care.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... ees-sinai/